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Torching the Big Tent (NY Times on the GOP)
NY TImes ^ | 10/25/09 | Pinchy "loaf" Sulzberger

Posted on 10/26/2009 8:34:05 AM PDT by pissant

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To: stop_fascism

Exactly.
Newt should take Dee Dee to his own district if he likes her politics that much.


41 posted on 10/26/2009 9:22:47 AM PDT by rod1
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To: stop_fascism

It is heart warming to see that the Times is worried about the direction of the GOP. They better start worrying about their bottom line.

By the way, this is how the House is supposed to work: a local candidate represents the local interests of the local electorate. The ideals that the Times finds so abhorrent are in fact the local sentiment.

This is how it is supposed to work in a representative republic. I dare say that the sentiments of the constituents of Pelosi are not shared by the majority of Americans, but that is how it works!


42 posted on 10/26/2009 9:23:03 AM PDT by nj patriot (Gore is beyond help.... Snakes in the head.)
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To: pissant

How many times have we heard this crap down through the years?? The Republicans must have a big tent and support Scranton or Rockefeller over Goldwater in ‘64, Ford over Reagan in ‘76, Bush over Reagan in ‘80, Dole over Buchanan in ‘96, McCain over Bush in ‘00, Specter over Toomey in ‘04, McCain over Romney et al in ‘08.

It gets tedious. When Republicans run as conservatives (other than in ‘64), they win, 68, 72, 80, 84, 88, 00, and 04, they win. When they run as moderates, 60, 76, 92, 96, and 08, they lose.

Big surprise that the democrats and their mouthpieces love the moderate big tenters!


43 posted on 10/26/2009 9:25:09 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cc2k; UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Someone had a great one liner on here yesterday.

Actually, cc2k, it's "In a small tent, we stand closer." Tagline Material courtesy of UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

44 posted on 10/26/2009 9:50:00 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: pissant
...refreshing tinges of centrism

(adopts Bubba accent) Well, now, that all depends on what your definition of "refreshing" is...

45 posted on 10/26/2009 9:53:32 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: mvpel

I’m not a Ron Paul supporter but I’m not one to attack him for being right about a great many things.


46 posted on 10/26/2009 11:18:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: TomGuy

good point


47 posted on 10/26/2009 11:30:33 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: pissant

They correctly call McHugh a Moderate, but then call DeDe a “centrist” (actually, they just say she has hints of centrist leanings, suggesting she is more to the right). Centrist to them means abortion rights, apparently, even though half the country opposes those rights, and a vast majority opposes the unfettered right to abortion that DeDe supports.

McHugh was no conservative, but he was much more conservative than DeDe. If the nyt knows McHugh was a moderate, they know that DeDe is a “liberal republican”. However, the MSM never uses the term “liberal republican”, just as they never use the term “liberal democrat”.

They also won’t use “progressive republican”, because that’s too “positive” a word from their point of view, so they use “moderate” and “centrist”., while they use “progressive” for far-left democrats, and “moderate” for ordinary left-wing democrats.


48 posted on 10/26/2009 11:58:00 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MaggieCarta; cc2k

The logic of my tag is obvious.

The Dem “big tent” is gays, race, peace, environment, immigration, unions, atheists etc.
But it is really a small tent because if you are gay, you must also be green, pacifist, pro-affirmative action, amnesty....
If you are in a Dem group, you must support all of them, even if they are detrimental to one another (i.e. unions vs. illegal immigrants or race - Blacks are mostly religious - vs. gays and atheists)

The Republican “Big Tent” is economic, security and social conservatives.
There is no necessary conflict between them.
So it is not too much to expect them to squeeze together in a “smaller tent” and start supporting each other like the Dems do.
And if they don’t support all three, ask for their support but for God’s sake, don’t elect them.


49 posted on 10/26/2009 1:39:59 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE STAND CLOSER! ****** IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: DesScorp
Dede is a liberal with moderate economic views. She belongs in the Democratic Party.

Wonder if she and Rahm have each other's phone numbers?

50 posted on 10/26/2009 2:32:38 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: cartervt2k; 2banana
This kind of reminds me of all of the "advice" the left was lending the GOP after last year's elections - that they need to be more "centrist" in order to be "relevant". What a joke.

In 1995, Clinton sold his office to the Chinese for a lot of money (and other favors, like our neatest and bestest W-88 thermonuclear warhead design, and guidance technology suitable for MIRV'ing Chinese Long March ICBM's aimed at the United States).

Clinton took that money and, with Dickie "Toe-Perv" Morris, did a lot of test-marketing and focus-group work in "C" markets (Jackson, Mississippi, for example) "below the radar" of the GOP. He tested an array of pitches and opponents all summer and came up with his "right matchup": Bob Dole. Bob Dole would be the weakest candidate the GOP could field against Clinton.

In August, Newsweek's Jonathan Alter ran an essay the burden of which was that the GOP was on the verge of becoming a silly, irrelevant party in danger of "never being taken seriously again" or words to that effect, because of their embrace of conservatism and the Contract with America, which had given them their biggest electoral success since 1946. The antidote to that inchoate silliness, that gaping maw of press disrespect and perpetual "unseriousness"? Nominate Bob Dole. Bob Dole has experience, Bob Dole is a known quantity, Bob Dole has .... gravitas!

No, I'm serious, that's what Alter wrote.

Think he didn't know the results of Clinton's test polling and marketing?

Let us rest our case. If Pinchy loathes Sarah Palin, then we've found our woman, our Joan of Arc.

51 posted on 10/26/2009 2:46:09 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: cotton1706
Big surprise that the democrats and their mouthpieces love the moderate big tenters!

Hurliferous liberal journopolemicist Theodore White, author of the Making of the President series of campaign books, referred to the RiNO's fondly as "the best of their kind."

He snarled at conservatives as "primitives" -- an epithet recycled from the McCarthy era a dozen years before, when liberals used it about McCarthy's supporters and anti-Communists generally. (Documented by Ann Coulter in Treason.)

How serious are liberals about these terms of abuse? Well, McCarthy himself died drunk and insane at age 48, thanks to them. That tough enough?

52 posted on 10/26/2009 2:54:46 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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