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To: pallis
Obamao’s arrogance is going to get the best of him when he goes after our guns. You know he wants to, but he and the radical left know it isn’t politically feasible right now.

I've posted it before, and here I go again:

Obama is a Lincoln admirer, and I think he wants to go after conservatives the way Lincoln went after the South: provoke, provoke, provoke -- kerblooey! And then declare insurrection with Congress in recess, and put the Army on foot in a civil war of his own devising.

A recent bio of John Quincy Adams suggests that it may have been Adams who thought up the idea of civil war as a way around the Constitution. He, like Lincoln after him, recognized the Gordian knot of achieving Northern industrial and political aims at the expense of the South constitutionally: there was, as Lincoln said in a letter in 1855, just no way to overcome and reorganize the South constitutionally. So the answer was to create extraordinary circumstances that would allow a president of the right disposition to solve all outstanding issues between the North and South once and for all, by use of the war power, to "suppress insurrection".

Remember, Adams was in the House of Representatives until his death in the 1840's .... long enough to meet the young Lincoln. So that may be how the Civil War started, with an idea passed from a grand old man and ex-president to a younger politician with the intellect and character to make the idea real.

So my warning is, Obama will seek an insurrection at some point, in order to be able to command the Army to kill vast numbers of conservatives and disarm and disenfranchise the survivors, as the survivors of the Confederacy were disenfranchised.

35 posted on 10/22/2009 3:11:49 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Except that it won’t work this time around. All the industrial power and all the firearms are in the South/conservative camp this time. And I don’t think he’s smart enough to realize this.


38 posted on 10/22/2009 5:01:35 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Very interesting hypothesis. I have seen pieces of this bounced around before. But not all together. You have prompted me to do some research.


45 posted on 10/22/2009 6:08:53 AM PDT by Ghengis
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To: lentulusgracchus

Where he going to get the army? Our army is dominated by conservative leaning people, they won’t do it. Getting 5 million libs to volunteer might be possible, but getting them to carry guns and kill people? I don’t think so.
I really think we, FR, need to focus on the MSM. Force them back to the middle, demand un-biased reporting. That would insure these communists are rendered ineffective in 2010.


50 posted on 10/22/2009 6:46:29 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid! My new environmentalist inspired tagline: cut, kill, dig and drill)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I wonder how well Obama’s plan would work considering the military overwhelmingly leans conservative.

If there is a breakdown in Constitutional government I wonder how many of Obama’s “army” will stand with him.

He better hope he doesn’t get what he wishes for, he may be surprised at who he has on his side.


58 posted on 10/22/2009 11:33:33 AM PDT by hattend (Sarah Palin's mob minion - Mob Name: Hatman the Hitman)
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