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Obama and Clinton cede to UN small arms treaty
Gun Right Ex ^ | 10/16/2009 | paul valone

Posted on 10/19/2009 8:55:35 AM PDT by mikelets456

As noted in “British gun control: Coming soon to a country near you? ” seven countries, led by the United Kingdom, are attempting to revive U.N. efforts to restrict imports and exports of small arms. On Wednesday, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced the United States would reverse Bush administration opposition to international small arms control, potentially paving the way for the British-led effort, which calls for a vote by the U.N. General Assembly by year’s end.

The U.S. would support the “Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty” as long as it was conducted under rules of “consensus decision-making,” interpreted by some to require unanimous consent, Clinton said. Non-governmental organizations such as Amnesty International and Oxfam, which support international restrictions, objected to requirements for a consensus.

The Heritage Foundation, calling demands for consensus “irrelevant” and “dangerous,” expressed opposition to the conference. The NRA has long opposed treaty efforts on grounds they would be used to abridge American’s right to keep and bear arms guaranteed by the Second Amendment.

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1 posted on 10/19/2009 8:55:35 AM PDT by mikelets456
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Molon Labe
2 posted on 10/19/2009 8:57:28 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: mikelets456

MOLON LABE. It’s coming to that, isn’t it?


3 posted on 10/19/2009 9:00:17 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: mikelets456
Here we go again. Sell off one little bit of American freedom and sovereignty at a time. But the treaty people don't understand the 2A.

As long as they leave it alone, the 2A means nothing. When they try and take it, the 2A means everything. They are activating the 2A.

4 posted on 10/19/2009 9:01:35 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: mikelets456
Obama and Clinton must have intel that presumes the American people will not fight, or they believe they can quell any uprising quickly, and the resulting population reduction will justify the use of over-whelming force.

I believe that the old "use 'em or lose 'em" saw is becoming more relevant with each passing day.

5 posted on 10/19/2009 9:02:11 AM PDT by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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NOTE TO COMMIE DICATOR AND CRONIES IN SODOM ON THE POTAMAC: Come and get them. Bring large swat team of commie troops with you. TRUE, GOD BELIVING AMERICANS WILL NOT CAVE TOO YOUR DICTATORSHIP!


6 posted on 10/19/2009 9:04:01 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (It's simple. The Second Coming is near. READ the Bible and what IT says about these times!)
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Since Britain “outlawed” guns, they’ve had a huge problem with stabbings. What should they do? Outlaw kitchen knives? Or how about we outlaw railroad ties? You know, the weapon of choice in Chicago./s


7 posted on 10/19/2009 9:04:48 AM PDT by khnyny (We did it for the show!!)
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US out of the Godless Communist United Nations!

Traitorous Treaties will not stand.


8 posted on 10/19/2009 9:14:44 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (As our six year old Balloon Boy says, "I think I gotta puke.")
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I have long believed and advocated that we need a Constitutional Amendment that says to the effect that all treaties that the US is party to is subject to the Constitution of the US and that any portion of any treaty past present or future that is in violation of the Constitution is unenforceable.

Further, that any sitting US President requires 51% of the Senate to approve a treaty;
that the Senate must take up a floor vote within 60 days from the time the President presents the final treaty to the Senate;
that the text of the treaty must be printed and published to the public no less than 5 days before the Senate vote;
That the US can not become party to any treaty in secret; That no treaty may cause the lose of US Sovereign rights or the rights of US citizens within the borders and international waters of the United States;
And that no treaty may be agreed to that creates a tax on the citizens of the United States.

Further, that at any time, the President may begin the process to remove the US from a party of a treaty by publicly announcing such, notifying the other members of the treaty and submitting to the Senate a notice of removal. Like a normal treaty, the Senate must take up a vote within 60 days and if passed with a 51% majority, then the US is no longer a party of that treaty.


9 posted on 10/19/2009 9:16:48 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Eaker; humblegunner; TheMom

Hope you fellerz didn’t expend too much ammo this last weekend...;-)

May need the rest...


10 posted on 10/19/2009 9:19:43 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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Do these people really want a riot or revolt. When a politician messes with the Constitution he is walking on very thin ice. This is one place where an end run is not acceptable.
11 posted on 10/19/2009 9:20:45 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: taxcontrol

I thought one needed a 2/3 majority to ratify any treaties


12 posted on 10/19/2009 9:28:22 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: ought-six
MOLON LABE. It’s coming to that, isn’t it?

It's been coming to that since 1934.

I was only born in 1985 and I could tell that's the only way we'll get anything done in these times.

13 posted on 10/19/2009 9:28:29 AM PDT by wastedyears (Clyde Shelton is my hero.)
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Obama (Clinton & the UN): “You Sir, are not one of my vassals... who are you?
Ash: Who wants to know?
Obama: I am Obama the Red. Duke of Earl, Lord of the Kenyans and dearest Leader of its peoples.
Ash: Well, hello Mister Fancypants. I’ve got news for you pal, you ain’t leadin’ but two things right now: Jack and shit... and Jack left town.”


14 posted on 10/19/2009 9:29:02 AM PDT by tumblindice (Good, bad--I'm the guy with the gun.)
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To: RetiredArmy

bump


15 posted on 10/19/2009 9:29:08 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: taxcontrol
Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution includes this language, in regards the President: "He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;..."

This means that a simple majority of the Senate cannot make it official.

16 posted on 10/19/2009 9:30:15 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (The only thing standing between us and complete victory over the evildoers is POLITICS!)
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Once again, the RATS have misread public sentiment. They saw the orderly, peaceful protest on DC and they mistook that for a sign of weakness. They don't understand the passion of freedom loving Americans to protect that freedom.

Unfortunately, treaties trump the US Constitution, and the RATS know it. They had to get control of the House, Senate and White House before they could make this move, and now that they have it all, they know exactly what they are doing. It's going to take a revolution to stop them, and it has to be soon. Are the Patriots in America ready to stand up to this evil administration?

17 posted on 10/19/2009 9:32:28 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (THE ONLY ASTROTURF IN CONGRESS IS FOUND BETWEEN NANCY PELOSI'S EARS!!)
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To: ANGGAPO
Do these people really want a riot or revolt. When a politician messes with the Constitution he is walking on very thin ice. This is one place where an end run is not acceptable.

It would be a grave mistake on their part.

Any attempt to quell it would become a Lexington & Concord / Fort Sumter moment.

18 posted on 10/19/2009 9:37:30 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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Does anybody else wonder why we still support the UN?

It tries to undermine the Constitution of the USA and
would love to cripple our Constitutional Republic.

In over 60 years the only politicians who tried to get
the USA out of the UN were Goldwater and President
Ronald Reagan who did kick UNESCO out.
GW Bush invited UNESCO back in 2002.

16 out of 17 of the AMERICANS that were involved
in creating the UN were later identified, in sworn
testimony, as secret communist agents.

The first Secretary General was the AMERICAN Alger Hiss.
Alger Hiss served time in prison pursuant to his
involvement in a Communist spy ring.

Many of the other AMERICANS that were involved in
creating the UN fled the country, to avoid prosecution.

The ONE AMERICAN, that was involved in creating the UN;
and was NOT later identified, in sworn testimony, as a
secret communist agent, was Dean Acheson.
Dean Acheson’s law firm was the legal representative of
the Soviet Union, in US courts.

If the AMERICANS that were involved in creating the UN
were Communists, what do you think we got from the rest
of the world?

19 posted on 10/19/2009 9:40:03 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: Big_Harry
Obama and Clinton must have intel that presumes the American people will not fight, or they believe they can quell any uprising quickly, and the resulting population reduction will justify the use of over-whelming force.

I think they misread the protest march on DC. Because there were no arrests from violence or an unruly bunch of protesters they saw it as a sign of weakness. They don't realize that we are law abiding citizens, who will come unglued when our freedom is threatened.

20 posted on 10/19/2009 9:45:43 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (THE ONLY ASTROTURF IN CONGRESS IS FOUND BETWEEN NANCY PELOSI'S EARS!!)
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