“ZBig is a realist, like Kissinger, Scowcroft, Baker, Gates, Jones, Lugar, Pickering, Powell,and many, many others.”
Posted on 10/11/2009 7:54:30 PM PDT by VRWCTexan
Kissinger is possibly one of the most evil, vile men in the world.
global islamo-Nuclear-terrorism.
Obama is doing everything he can to prepare our nation
to be susceptable to such an attack.
Building up huge depts until the dollar becomes so
shakey that one massive blow will kick the legs
out from our economic base.
“ZBig is a realist, like Kissinger, Scowcroft, Baker, Gates, Jones, Lugar, Pickering, Powell,and many, many others.”
Normally we don't rely on the field commander to establish doctrines. The Neocons used Petraeus to influence public opinion on the surge and that same technique is being used again.
I'll tell you one more, Obama is most influnced by the Realists-Pragmatists.
The NeoCons controlled republican foreign policy for a few short years under Bush and drove the GOP into the dirt. Do you remember the election bloodbaths of 2006 and 2008?
obama is most influenced bu shariah and shitcago, equal increments of both. Criminal and fascist.
What do you consider realism?
Realism-Pragmatism is a long established foreign policy doctrine.
Maybe you should try google? Try Obama Realist.
I didn’t ask about obama. I asked YOU what you consider a realist? YOUR opinion, or is that too far above your paygrade?
In the post 9-11 Bush administration there was a big battle between the realists and the neocons. The neocons won that battle and invaded Iraq. That went to hell so the Iraq Study Group of realists was convened to write the exit strategy, compose the Iraq Security Agreement, and revise Gitmo policies. Realist Bob Gates resigned from the Iraq Study Group to become Bush's Sec of Defense.
Later, Obama campaigned on the Realist Doctrine and McCain campaigned on the NeoCon Doctrine. Obama won. Do you remeber Realist Colin Powell voting for Obama? Do you remember Kissinger, even tho he was a paid consultant to McCain, endorsing Obama's campaign promise to negotiate with Iran "at the highest level and without precondition"? Do you recall that Obama retained Gates as Defense Secretary?
After I define realist for you, will I have to define NeoCon for you? I didn't take you to raise.
Phillies won!
“Later, Obama campaigned on the Realist Doctrine and McCain campaigned on the NeoCon Doctrine”
Oh, wait. You mean like Afghanistan was the GOOD war? Like it’s okay for Iran to have nukes but we are going to talk them to death?
I asked YOUR opinion. Obviously you have none. You are talking about doctrine but have yet to define it.
And yeah,enlighten me. WHAT, in your not so humble opinion, is a “neocon?”
BTW, I don’t agree with McCain on just about anything the treacherous b@st@rd says or does. obama is a fascist who wants to make the world safe for islam. Is that your idea of pragmatism?
And I didn’t agree with Bush either. Under Bush we added any number of new islamic states.
See. I AM A REALIST. YOU are a propagandist. There is a difference.
Kissinger’s “pragmatism” prolonged the “realists” war in Vietnam far longer than it should have been.
Before you call someone ignorant, maybe you should check out the contradictions in your own pronouncements.
“I didn’t take you to raise.”
And for that, I am profoundly grateful.
“ZBig is a realist, like Kissinger, Scowcroft, Baker, Gates, Jones, Lugar, Pickering, Powell,and many, many others.”
These “great pargmatists” have exactly ONE thing in common. Gee. Can your enlightened self possibly tell little old, ignorant me what that might be? Hmmm?
pragmatists/realists
dyslexia
In the post 9-11 Bush administration there was a big battle between the realists and the neocons. The neocons won that battle and invaded Iraq.
Small problem with your evil neo-con plot....we didnt invade iraq after 9/11...we invaded afganistan...
And as a matter of fact...I saw Al sharpton say the exact same thing, in the same context you did, tonight on fox...
“And as a matter of fact...I saw Al sharpton say the exact same thing, in the same context you did, tonight on fox...”
I might be getting more ignorant with each passing post, but what do you suppose Al Sharpton has in common with ALL the great realists ol’ Ben there named?
Methinks Ben must be a cowardly sort. No cards on the table. Folded.
Bump for tonight.
Don’t tell Bennie Flikin, but it appears that some on the left are also part of the dreaded “Neocon” crowd?
Obama must send more troops, says … Dianne Feinstein?
Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) has a more sensible approach to the war than many of her colleagues, and at least apparently the White House. Feinstein completely rejected the notion that the US could live with a resurgent Taliban, and warned that it would have a “dramatic impact” on Pakistan if the US pulled out of Afghanistan.
Feinstein also questioned why Barack Obama would have appointed Gen. Stanley McChrystal to lead the effort if the White House didn’t run with his “very solid recommendations,” as she told George Stephanopoulos yesterday, and that the White House needed to make up its mind tout suite:
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/12/obama-must-send-more-troops-says-dianne-feinstein/
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.