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1 posted on 10/01/2009 2:51:38 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Ping!


2 posted on 10/01/2009 2:53:08 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: SunkenCiv

/mark


3 posted on 10/01/2009 2:54:09 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: GodGunsGuts
That's not all that far back. Folks were making cave paintings, had certainly invented shoes and other footware at least 70,000 years earlier, and had demonstrably worn tailored (that is, sewn together) fur outer garments thousands of years earlier.

Now, about that 6,000 year ago thing ~ ?

4 posted on 10/01/2009 2:57:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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“Some of these fibers were woven, some were cut,
and some were dyed black, gray, turquoise, or pink.
They also discovered evidence that these people
were processing fur...”
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Factory was closed - work was outsourced to neanderthals.


5 posted on 10/01/2009 3:00:45 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

The basic reality wrt rc dating is this: It is fairly accurate back to around 2500 years ago. Nonetheless beginning several thousand years ago there was a series of catastrophes, the most major being the flood and the most recent occurring around the time of the Trojan war, in which the entire nature of the solar system was altered, and all of the assumptions which rc dating uses go straight out the window past about the time of the Trojan war.


6 posted on 10/01/2009 3:02:11 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: GodGunsGuts

I hope they were careful about their CO2 emissions....


7 posted on 10/01/2009 3:03:07 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Why did they put that dumb picture of fabric in the article and then say it wasn’t the fibers found?


10 posted on 10/01/2009 3:12:22 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: GodGunsGuts

How vapid.


18 posted on 10/01/2009 3:29:09 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: GodGunsGuts

glad our march backwards has something to look forward to.


24 posted on 10/01/2009 4:08:44 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Isn't the Golden Mean the secret to something," I parried? "Yes," Blue replied. "Mediocrity.")
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To: GodGunsGuts

So that’s how long it took to recover from the last Obama style administration.


25 posted on 10/01/2009 4:09:55 PM PDT by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Woven cloth? Then some sort of loom and spinning equipment.
All of which takes some experience and understanding of the materials used.

Most interesting find, thanks for ping.


27 posted on 10/01/2009 5:30:27 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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“A supposedly 1.8 million-year-old skull has been unearthed in the Republic of Georgia. It appears “primitive” and diminutive (much like the Flores Hobbit man fossils) and the date puts it prior to the Out of Africa event that supposedly led to the colonizing of the world by modern humans. This seems to be a “shot across the bow” by these scientists against the Out of Africa Theory.”

—I read this probably 10x and I still can’t figure out what his point is. As he says, the Out of Africa event is when H. sapiens left Africa and replaced H. erectus and eventually the Neandertals. The Georgian fossils push back the date for the earliest known H. erectus outside of Africa, and some believe the fossils are of a habilus/erectus intermediate or another side branch. But what on earth has that got to do with modern humans leaving Africa 1.6 million years later?

“According to most paleontologists, a division of labor that would allow some people to devote themselves to such activities is not supposed to occur until after the advent of farming…”

—That would be the field of archaeology, but anyway - no, they never thought such a thing. Decorative items, tools, houses, etc *far* older than this have *long* been known. Even Neandertals made such items. With farming and cities such items took a big leap in sophistication and quantity, however. And, of course, there are masterful cave paintings predating the time of this cloth. And actually, this cloth is apparently the new record for oldest cloth at ~30k years old, but it just barely beat out the previous record of 28k years old.

The earliest human dwellings (people living in artificial structures instead of caves) goes back to at least 200,000 years:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,835175,00.html
(Note the date of the article)

So it’s odd to put so much importance on this find.

Most paleontologists (now’s the right time for the term) don’t believe that humans have changed much, if at all, in intelligence in the past several hundred thousand years (there are some that believe that humans made some sort of leap in cognition around ~40k years ago or so due to the arrival of the cave paintings and some increases in sophistication of human artifacts, but they seem to be a small minority). So, overall, a very odd article.


29 posted on 10/01/2009 6:30:19 PM PDT by goodusername
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To: GodGunsGuts

thanks for ping/heads up..


33 posted on 10/02/2009 6:50:33 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!you)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Certanly this region—the Caucausus — can claim lots of firsts.

As far as the carbon dating goes-—there are too many questions about it accuracy.


35 posted on 10/02/2009 9:09:31 AM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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