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No, they were just harmless little enclaves of playful people just pretending to be building more and more anti-US sentiment.

Saddam would have just backed down and let the inspectors in eventually and the Taliban in place in Afganistan would have just said, “Oh, 9/11 was just a one-time deal..we won’t do it again.” Right?

sorry but afghanistan did not attack the US on 9/11 nor did Iraq. a terrorist organisation (not a government) did this.
i guarantee you that 80% of the people living in afghanistan didn´t even know that a country like the USA only exists bevore the “war”. nor did they want to attack you. by “our” definition they are all total religious lunatics. and i agree. but believe me the standart afghani could care less about the US if Nato wasn´t there. they want to live like in the 6th century? Ok fine for me i don´t care. just tell em “we” let you as long as you don´t harbour people who want to kill us all (terrorists). if you do face the consequences. (bomb the crap out of them and don´t care about local casualties). but as long “we” try to start nation building in a region where people would rater die before they would want to live in a democracy like ours we have allready lost.

you that 80% of the people living in afghanistan didn´t even know that a country like the USA only exists bevore the “war

So what? You didn't know that Al Queda had large numbers of havens there protected by its Gov't? The leaders of the Taliban there sure know the US exists and the people would allow those anti-US reptiles to run things if we were not there. And then terror breeds. We don't wait for attacks after we already had one that could very well have destroyed us had we not had a George Bush in office ...we go over and do what we need to BEFORE something else happens. And it will if we leave them alone because the Taliban have nothing else that motivates them other than hatred of the US.

nor did Iraq

So what? Saddam couldn't keep going on the way he had been for years. It was time to stop before the world (especially us) suffered. You can't let sick dictators who are a threat continue on otherwise you are like Chamberlain.

“Afghanistan did not attack the US on 9/11 nor did Iraq. a terrorist organization (not a government) did this.”

Nonsense. The Muslim world attacked us on 9/11 and hundreds of millions of Muslims celebrated. They believed they could escape any reprisals because we would blame a few radicals; and you want to prove them right. Way to go.

Islam produces terrorists because the Islamic world demands terrorism as a salve to its inferiority complex and a weapon against its enemies (us.) Our job is to make it very clear to Muslims, especially those in Persia and Arabia, that attacking us is a fool's game. We have to prove that they will pay dearly in lives and humiliation for any damage they inflict on us and that we won't be distracted by scapegoats like Al Qaeda. We have to suppress the demand for terrorism; we can't just try to pinch the supply.

Any Muslim regime that sets itself up as our enemy has to go. The Taliban and Saddam were a start, but only a start. We should be waging the Arab and Persian War much more vigorously than we are, but we certainly shouldn't be retreating or giving up any ground we've won.

Sadly, it will probably take another successful attack to make all this clear to the obtuse American public.