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1 posted on 09/22/2009 11:18:11 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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'Democrats Never Meant What They Said' What in the hell is NEW???
2 posted on 09/22/2009 11:20:49 AM PDT by geo40xyz (BE PREPARED: Geo The Engineer so smart, he doesn't need a TelePrompter to speak. Unlike the AH:-))
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“The average Democrat doesn’t like fighting wars. They don’t like using military force. They don’t just dislike collateral damage and civilian casualties and flag-draped coffins; they cringe at the concept of combat with citizens of another country”

Mostly it’s because they themselves don’t want to fight, period. The Hippies didn’t want to be drafted because they didn’t want to risk their own butts.

But give them real power over the military, and I guarantee their attitude will change. They’ll LOVE the military, and will love to use it against their own citizens.


3 posted on 09/22/2009 11:23:32 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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Democrats lie all the time. Nothing new there.

However, this concerns Afghanistan. If we pull out AlQaida and every other nutcase Moslem group will move back in and it's just going to end up with the US being attacked again, and this time even more thousands will die.

I think it would be much better for the Democrats to back off their BS because there's really no guarantee that all the people who will be killed are Democrats (which, of course, would make it all right as long as property damage was kept within reasonable bounds).

4 posted on 09/22/2009 11:23:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Personally I’ve believed that we should have aggressively attacked western Pakistan since shortly after 9/11.

Also the Afghan opium business - which is largely run from Pakistan to the profit or terrorists - needs to be destroyed, probably just by buying up the entire annual opium crop at 25 percent above the price offered by Pakistani and Iranian heroin manufacturers.


5 posted on 09/22/2009 11:24:02 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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And if the Afghan government falls to the Taliban...


sorry to tell you but there is not so much difference as you may think between the so called Afghan “government” and the taliban. both want the power and both don´t care how much people will get killed as long as they get what they want. to think the the “democratic” (with is a total joke because most people in afghanistan do not even know what democracy is nor do they whant it) electect government is an ally you couldn´t be more wrong. they are the same.


8 posted on 09/22/2009 11:32:28 AM PDT by darkside321
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10 posted on 09/22/2009 11:37:48 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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No Kidding. I have so many friends on the left and relatives who just shrug their shoulders. Iraq Bad! Afghanistan Good!

‘Cept for the part they don't like war at all not even in their own defense. They will say it too!

Sad really. Let's see, you like breathing but you don't want to use an army to obliterate the very people who want to end your breathing? Well that makes sense, if you want to offer yourself up as an offering to allah or any other god, be my guest.

Me, I intend on staying on this planet as long as possible. I like it here and I like most of the people. Some of them, though, we have a difference of opinion that is just unresolvable through peaceful means.

I would rather they leave me alone but, they won't, so feel the pain, mr. aggressor. I have no intention of giving in.

Ever.

11 posted on 09/22/2009 11:39:15 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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The minute we stop attacking them there, THEY WILL ATTACK US HERE.

It is either their civilians or ours, it is THAT simple.

14 posted on 09/22/2009 11:44:18 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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“Democrats Never Meant What They Said About Afghanistan”

As some Clinton Administrations underlings admitted about the USA involvement
in The Balkans:

“It was the only war we had.”

In other words, Bill Clinton had to earn some “macho” bona fides
by putting US Forces in the field.
No matter when, where, how or why.
To show he was “Presidential”.


17 posted on 09/22/2009 11:54:11 AM PDT by VOA
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But none of us should forget that it was a political strategy, not a serious foreign policy.

None of us missed the point, although the notion of saying anything to get into office and then doing anything else is just a little blatant when it's expressed like that. It's the sort of thing that inevitably gets brought up when it comes time for re-election.

The far greater offense is not having an alternate policy in mind while you're lying your sorry butt off to get elected. "Just pull out" isn't a policy, it's a vague idea, and aside from an unelectable idea it's a bad one for everyone else other than the candidate and his followers. The truth is that what happened was more like "just lie and then we'll figure it out." Well, figuring it out is turning out to be just a little harder than it seemed during those dorm room discussions.

Nor is Afghanistan simply a static, nor an isolated problem, it's an issue the Russians are merrily feeding (Iran is another) in pursuit of their own geostrategic objectives, namely the reassembly of the Former Soviet Union. The latter is a program of which 0bama and his progressive wing are broadly in favor as long as they don't have to take the blame. That's going to be a little hard to avoid come time for re-election as well. It is, after all, the price of majority.

I am not optimistic. I do not think 0bama or his staff are up to the job and I do not say that for partisan reasons but as a conclusion based on results to date. They are going to attempt to paper the problem over this week at the UN confab on the 24th, and the complaisant media will be working overtime to present the whole thing as another Munich done right this time. "Peace In Our Time and now let's concentrate on Global Warming." Watch it happen.

21 posted on 09/22/2009 12:01:34 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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...it was a political strategy, not a serious foreign policy...

And so we have an inexperienced, community organizer, socialist Commander in Chief because McCain ran a pathetic campaign and the media was in the tank for the Kenyan.

28 posted on 09/22/2009 12:57:11 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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