Posted on 09/04/2009 1:54:55 PM PDT by RobinMasters
The Chi-coms celebrate the Chi-coms.
Chicago-coms, Chinese-coms
See post #20
I agree. This is a photo op for our side to exploit.
That’s right. People got what they voted for.
You see it clearly brother. But if too much noise is made before the fact, the picture will never materialize.
Your right, let them put everything in place, allow Congress to impose the process and wait for the next level of Progressiveness to be put in place…then maybe we should act fixing the last problem using Government Education. This is how they got Social Security and all most every government program under the wire; good strategy for useful idiots.
...Adhering to the enemies of America or giving aid and comfort to the same...
John Murtha certainly aided Al’Queda when he publicly and nationally slandered and condemned the Haditha Marines of murder/war-crimes WITHOUT investigation.
See how all our politician overlords have aided him by NOT calling for a trial for Treason. See how our courts aid and comfort him by declaring that a law immunizing federal employees in the execution of their office from civil suits, such as slander. (Murtha is not an employee because he cannot be fired; recalled or ‘not elected’ are NOT fired; further, since when is it a single legislator’s duty to declare the guilt/innocence of an accused, much less a member of the military?)
You have a point. On the other hand, the MSM, apart from FOX, will gloss over such an event and even make is sound ok and the dummies who voted for the commie in the WH will just drink it in as how wonderful, we are talking to those who are our enemies and soon they will like us..’ really like us” to use a quote of Sally Field.
Sally Field and other airheads like her are drawn to sound bites that have no depth nor history of successful practice where their philosophy has proven to get the stated results. It's all airheaded conjecture and theory. Now you know why there are those who's commitment is to evolution.
There are still those who are reachable and it is for those whom we (on a purely selective basis) choose to restrain.
It is not as though this has never happened in the course of human history.
There is new info related to this story that may change the issue and approach slightly.
1. The WND article was not bullshit as evidenced by the WH response:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2332813/posts
And as WH back peddling from original intended actions has been quite consistent, their original plans will be altered, proof of the stupidity of their actions. If any of their planned actions were so meritorious, then why make any changes with discovery. But thieves and liars do that. That's their MO.
2. OneWingedShark is making a parallel point. A legitimate form of engaging in discussion which understandably went over your head. Shark does not have to discuss according to your narrow minded snippy rules nor answer any of your stupid questions at all.
3. We honor allies with the display of their flags. We don't honor enemies or adversaries with the same privilege. The reason for that is only obvious to those who deeply love and appreciate what the United States, it's flag, and constitution has made available to its citizens and the entire world. No Socialist or Totalitarian regime of any kind can even come close to wiping our collective asses in such a claim.
4. Something done stupidly is hardly evidence of merit. The Chinese don't invest in the US because they are in any way motivated by appreciation or benevolence. As with any so called Socialist or Communist regime, they are hypocrites. They stooge the peasants of their societies with the fraud of the benefits of Socialism/Communism but the brown-nosers and leadership of all these regimes engage in Capitalist activity for their very survival. The “ism” for the stupids at the bottom, Capitalism for those at the top. They don't live by the principals that they shove at the peasants because THEY CAN'T.
The Chi-com Gvt lives by the principals of Tsn Tsu (probably not spelled correctly but point made) and every intelegence resource knows this (further evidence of corporate and Gvt espionage proves this). On the one hand they were engaging the US to over take it. On the other hand their hypocritic thirst for Capitalism got them caught up in our system so if they kill us they kill themselves.
Any wonder why it was that their Communist Gvt. told Obama to stop going the direction of Socialism he is taking this country? (Russia saying the same) Because they know first hand the hell hole Socialism will take their investments to. One has to be an abject dummy to miss it.
Are they an enemy from the standpoint of intent? ABSOLUTELY
Are they caught by their own hypocrisy? ABSOLUTELY
(kind of an interesting state of affairs that is ironicly saving our own ass)
Obama and his host of stupids have been committing treason against this country and its founding principals of liberty and free market capitalism, towards their form of Neo-Marxism from the start. And as all lying hypocritical Socialists/Communists are they have to lie and hide their true intent to fool the masses they seek to control. They cannot come out and openly debate the merit of where they want to take the country because they know what they stand for sucks. So their couch their agenda in terms like “change” and “social justice” and other like Neo-Marxist catch phrases EXACTLY LIKE STALIN, MARX, AND LENNIN DID. Look what happened to Russia.
The terms TREASON, HYPOCRITE, FRAUD are too good for those who are being described.
And you willingly wearing the knee pads for them says it all about yourself.
Well aren’t you bright. And I’m sure OneWingedShark is happy to have a pinch hitter with so much time on their hands. But the fact remains that no matter how distasteful our relationship with them may be, China is not an official state enemy, therefore the oft-misused word “treason” cannot apply. That was the only subject that was raised in a post that had nothing to do with you and your “parallel subjects.” But since you bring it up, how do you feel about GW and his romantic hand-in-hand stroll with the King of Saudi Arabia? Unarguably, using your logic, a far more valid “enemy” (see 9/11 bombers for a quick referrence, genius) than China, at this point. So please, take your kneepads and pointless post and stick them up your ass.
>4. Seeing as though we have granted China Favored Nation Trading status and they continue to bail us out financially,
>I challenge you to tell me how they can possibly be considered an enemy.
>Also, your hatred for them doesn’t qualify them as an enemy.
They have prominent Generals actively talking about “Asymmetrical Warfare” against the US [Economic and Information-systems, in particular.]
What better way to wage a financial war than to buy EVERYTHING [debt-wise] that can be bought, as well as working to undermine the self-sufficiency of the target, and then when a default is made yoink the lands away; haven’t you watched ANY westerns?
3. Displaying the Chinese flag somewhere on the South lawn at a party is hardly the same as flying it “over” the Whitehouse.
True enough.
>1. This article is from World Nut Daily, so odds are its complete bullshit.
Which is why I brought up John Murtha; Treason charges agains _him_ actually DO have grounds.
2. What the hell does John Murtha have to do with this article or my question?
Because if you look at the definition of Treason, if you’re helping traitors then you could be considered a traitor as well... there’s enough backroom deals, and judicial sleight-of-hand, that [I believe] would clear out A LOT of the politicians.
>Now, still feel like tossing the word “treason” around like it doesn’t mean anything?
>It does, and you are wrong.
Am I ? I’ve answered all your other questions; now do you believe that I am “tossing the word” around?
>China is not an official state enemy, therefore the oft-misused word “treason” cannot apply.
WRONG!
Do you remember the character Gollum from Lord of the Rings? He was not an “official” enemy of the hobbits (Frodo and Sam) because of Frodo’s compassion; however, he most certainly WAS their enemy. Just because someone isn’t “officially” at war with us DOES NOT mean that they are not an enemy; for example, the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor was not done during war (due to miscommunication w/ their diplomat).
>But since you bring it up, how do you feel about GW and his romantic hand-in-hand stroll with the King of Saudi Arabia?
I didn’t have a problem with it; but then I also understand the cultural disjunction with holding hands. It is not view in the mid-east as it is here, nor in the far-east. Also, on a diplomatic trip such as that, wouldn’t it be wholly appropriate? (As opposed to, say, Bill Clinton authorizing a tour of Los Alamos for the Chinese? Or what about his sale of top-secret documents to them?)
As I said in reply to your first post, China is indeed engaging us in warfare. Not conventional, but with economic- and information-warfare. Else how do you explain the instances, in the past year even, of several major attacks on US government originating in China? (Let me remind you that China controls the external-portals interfacing the rest of the world to the interior of China.)
You took the bait.
I can always count on liberals to hone in on shit to aid in the support of their own argument (After I nuked you every where else).
Bush was no common sense conservative he was a luke warm puke moderate. The more one acts like a liberal the stupider they get. Appeasement is stupid. It does not work.
Count on a liberal to use an example of someone doing something stupid to support their own argument. I thought you guys said Bush was a dummy. Guess that makes you one too.
>Displaying the Chinese flag on or near the Whitehouse grounds, in this instance (or when GW did it), is not treason.
Did I ever say it was BECAUSE of displaying a foreign flag that it was treason? No, but I did provide why I believe there IS treason (multiple instances, actually) in our midst. (I also provided sound reasoning for WHY the Chinese could/should be considered enemies.)
Words have meaning; perhaps you should try reading them instead of pulling them out your ass and putting them in someone else’s mouth.
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