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Obama Regulation Czar Advocated Removing People’s Organs Without Explicit Consent
CNSNews.com ^ | September 04, 2009 | Matt Cover

Posted on 09/04/2009 4:15:09 AM PDT by Man50D

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To: angkor
The public goods argument implies that individuals should participate unless they have a good reason not to.

I've suspected for some time that we are no longer human beings with rights, but just another type of commodity to be done with as the government sees fit.

This is the first time I can remember being unhappy for being right.

62 posted on 09/04/2009 7:23:46 AM PDT by MamaTexan (We are NOT administrative, corporate, collective, legal, political or public entities or persons!)
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To: Man50D

“The false assumption is that almost all people, almost all of the time, make choices that are in their best interest or at the very least are better than the choices that would be made [for them] by someone else,” they said.

This means that government “incentives and nudges” should replace “requirements and bans,” they argued.

 
Are delusional?  In the absence of an explicit and written choice, the government will make a better for me?
 
Get real, Homey the Clown don't play that game!

63 posted on 09/04/2009 7:30:51 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Man50D

It is an organ of the state, citizen...


64 posted on 09/04/2009 7:40:30 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 226 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Voter62vb

He is Zer0 of Borg. You will be assimilated.


65 posted on 09/04/2009 7:43:50 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: usmcobra
This policy removes that obstacle, allowing organs to be harvested to save those that are truly worthy of such transplants under Obamacare.

Where to begin?

Who under Obama care decides worthiness?

(Your post was dripping with irony, wasn't it????)

66 posted on 09/04/2009 7:47:39 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 226 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I’m going to DC and anywhere else whether resistance is futile or not.

The Borg is such a menacing icon.

I think we need to view the ObamaBorg as a very fragile and small foil Hollywood stage prop and let the boot of reality crush it.

DC, Number One. Engage!


67 posted on 09/04/2009 7:50:38 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Voter62vb
I don’t know but selling gonads would make a vast difference!!!!

Vas deferins? no?

*GROAN*

shame on you!

68 posted on 09/04/2009 7:51:00 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 226 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

Null and Void: *GROAN*

Oh, you mean “groin”...

I got a medical joke about a tapeworm, cookies and hammer, too, if ya got time...


69 posted on 09/04/2009 7:53:15 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Huck
I’m afraid if I’m an organ donor, some hospital will let me die and harvest me rather than save my life.

Let? or make?

70 posted on 09/04/2009 7:53:28 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 226 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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71 posted on 09/04/2009 7:57:39 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wrench
Worth repeating:

Under obamacare, all medical records will be in the national medical database. They will already have you typed and cross matched, and will know if your organs are a match when one of “the chosen” is in need of a liver, lung, heart, etc.

Then you will have an unfortunate accident.

I think you have identified why "the chosen" are in such an absolute frantic rush to cram the 0bamaCare bill through.

72 posted on 09/04/2009 8:00:56 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 226 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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Scary stuff bump!


73 posted on 09/04/2009 8:01:20 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Voter62vb

*ouch*

Yeah, I got time...


74 posted on 09/04/2009 8:03:57 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 226 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Man50D; wagglebee; cpforlife.org; redgolum; narses; NYer

What a group of freaks he has in there.

75 posted on 09/04/2009 8:04:02 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Man50D
China does this.

We are becoming a cross between China, the USSR, and Germany circa 1939.

76 posted on 09/04/2009 8:05:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Man50D
“Another [problem] is that it is a hard sell politically,” wrote Sunstein and Thaler. “More than a few people object to the idea of ‘presuming’ anything when it comes to such a sensitive matter. For these reasons we think that the best choice architecture for organ donations is mandated choice.”

O.M.F.G.

Mandated Choice.

"Do what you want. It's your decision. Here's what your decision is."

77 posted on 09/04/2009 8:07:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: takbodan
“Get your stinking hands off me you damn dirty ape”


78 posted on 09/04/2009 8:11:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: wrench; null and void

“Under obamacare, all medical records will be in the national medical database. They will already have you typed and cross matched, and will know if your organs are a match when one of “the chosen” is in need of a liver, lung, heart, etc.

Then you will have an unfortunate accident.”

At this point, I am willing to suspend all belief.

If you had told me in 2001 October that we’d have an avowed anti-capitalist pro-Marxist in the White House, who didn’t have the ‘nads to define victory, who restricted American troops, who praised the call to Mecca as the most beautiful sound in the world, who as a matter of purposeful practice surrounded himself with communist and 911Truthers I’d say you were smoking too much meth.

Now today, people are voluntarily and somewhat coerced selling organs over seas already.

Fast forward to 2010 with a nice little medical database, and when Nancy Pelosi who say has a rare blood type and needs a kidney, why, you may be the lucky one that gets a letter in the mail with an offer to buy yours. In fact, such harvesting may occur months before the need and the organs are kept. And, if you refuse, you just might slide off that back road on the way to work and the local ambulance takes out your kidney before you wife even knows you’re on ice.

I would put nothing past those with unchecked authority to have their way.


79 posted on 09/04/2009 9:07:24 AM PDT by Sparko (Obama & Czars: neutering the American Voter, perverting the Constitution, all on our dime.)
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To: Lazamataz
This is different from the mandatory volunteer community service work my kid needs to do to graduate high school how?

(I'm really old, I remember when "community service" was only required of convicted criminals)...

80 posted on 09/04/2009 9:30:27 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 226 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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