[Nonstatist]

I am confused ; which is "elitist" and which is "populist" ?

NYT, Andy Stern, Move On. org, Ralph Nader ?.. To me, theyre all elitist... The author's article is immensely sloppy, IMO.

[leilani]

Yeah, I agree about the article confusion. Also agree that whether or not the janitors & maids in the 'populist' flank of the left wing choose to recognize the fact, the very agenda they support necessitates an elitist wing to administer the control over the very same 'populist' people who are asking to be controlled by an ever-bigger, ever more powerful government through ever-more intrusive government programs run by an elite few.

You can't very well institute a leftist populist agenda without a leftist elite enforcing its implementation, so any complaints the lefty-pops may have on not having a say now are absurd. The very platform they support negates their individual liberty to have their say at all - now or later. Leftism is inherently elitist, any populist construction of leftism to which they may pretend to adhere is but a self-delusion.

I think what we may be seeing here is more of a conflict of those few remaining schmucks who still call themselves liberal while thinking of themselves as adhering to classic liberalism as the word liberalism was once-upon-a-time construed (i.e., those who believe in individual freedom yadyayada) and those who embrace the currently prevailing distortion of the term as it has been hijacked by statist leftists.

[neverdem]

I am confused ; which is "elitist" and which is "populist" ?

NYT, Andy Stern, Move On. org, Ralph Nader ?.. To me, theyre all elitist... The author's article is immensely sloppy, IMO.

It's not that hard. Think of the jobs killing enviromoonbats and the union ranks & files. Andy Stern knows big government won't do much for him. He needs to unionize small businesses without a secret ballot.