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Federal Government Will Borrow 40 Percent of the Money It Spends Next Year, Says White House Report
CNS ^ | Monday, August 31, 2009 | Matt Cover

Posted on 08/31/2009 8:18:37 AM PDT by Thebaddog

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To: April Lexington
The Illusion of Obama is beginning to look too much like delusion.
21 posted on 08/31/2009 8:53:27 AM PDT by madinmadtown
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Gee..maybe I will just max out my credit cards and say,”look at the great lifestyle I'm living.” Unfortunately, the card has to be paid back
22 posted on 08/31/2009 8:53:59 AM PDT by fishingking (Formerly Lakertaker)
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To: April Lexington

Wouldn’t that be something conveniant for Obama; a nice national disaster for him to declare martial law and finally not have to worry about polls and pleasing the voters.


23 posted on 08/31/2009 8:56:16 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("Need has never produced anything. It has only been an excuse to steal from those with ablity.")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s hard to calculate when we don’t have a clear picture of what GNP will have fallen to by the end of the year, and what revenues of that will be. I suspect there is a lot of wishful thinking going on.

We are probably over that edge, we just don’t know it yet.


24 posted on 08/31/2009 8:59:28 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Thebaddog

“In fact, defense spending, including the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, account for 19 percent of federal spending while mandatory programs such as the bailout and the stimulus spending programs account for 18.9 percent.

Entitlement programs, by contrast, including Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid account for 38.2 percent of total government spending.”

If anyone ever needs proof that the government spends most of the money it gets through taxes bribing voters, here it is. Of course, you first have to convince them entitlement programs are bribes and not something people actually need.


25 posted on 08/31/2009 9:00:03 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("Need has never produced anything. It has only been an excuse to steal from those with ablity.")
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To: Thebaddog
Somehow, Geithner and Bernanke are expecting us to believe that the Federal government can just borrow as much money as it needs and spend it on stuff and that this spending will stimulate, I think, the private sector and restore the economy to Reagan Era prosperity.

This has never been done before. So... maybe they are correct. Maybe the government can spend untold trillions of dollars from suckers who still have money to lend and grow a private sector economy. If they are right, the United States will be a strong vibrant free market economy again real soon...

I don't believe a word of this nonsense. can anyone tell be what I am missing? Why can't I believe this will work? Is it just because I'm a stupid, knuckle dragging Republican from Fly Over Country who owns guns, prays and drives a big car while eating junk food? Maybe Mr. Bernanke can send me Freepmail and explain how this is going to work???

26 posted on 08/31/2009 9:01:18 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Democrats’ attitude toward money reminds of a five-year-old, told by his parents they don’t have the money for something, who says, “But you have plenty of checks! Just write a check!” Not laughable in 40- or 50- or 60- year olds!


27 posted on 08/31/2009 9:06:30 AM PDT by maryz
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To: RWB Patriot
"Entitlement programs, by contrast, including Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid account for 38.2 percent of total government spending.”

Those numbers are probably going to double by years end. Those were probably 2008-2009 numbers, when unemployment and welfare rolls hadn't begun to climb yet.

28 posted on 08/31/2009 9:07:02 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Thebaddog

In his first two weeks in office he pretty much maxed out credit with China, so who’s going to loan us THIS money?


29 posted on 08/31/2009 9:08:53 AM PDT by cake_crumb (86 44!)
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To: fishingking
"Unfortunately, the card has to be paid back."

You can just follow the Obama administrations lead: get another credit card to pay off the first one, then get ANOTHER credit card to pay off the second one, and on and on...

30 posted on 08/31/2009 9:13:24 AM PDT by cake_crumb (86 44!)
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To: JWinNC

And it’s not borrowing. It’s taking it at gun point!


31 posted on 08/31/2009 9:13:47 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: April Lexington
"I don't believe a word of this nonsense. can anyone tell be what I am missing?"

The money they are spending is on growing the size and cost of government, and the cost of those being paid by these programs is no different than the cost of those collecting welfare. The net result is an increased demand for tax revenues, which are falling, not growing.

Increasing the size of government and the cost that goes along with it requires a growing robust private sector business/industry to provide the increased revenues to pay for it.

32 posted on 08/31/2009 9:14:22 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: fishingking
“Gee..maybe I will just max out my credit cards and say,”look at the great lifestyle I'm living.” Unfortunately, the card has to be paid back”

Any entity that takes on this type of debt load ends up insolvent and in bankruptcy. Governments are no different.

33 posted on 08/31/2009 9:16:06 AM PDT by Gabrial (ObamaCare: The efficiency of the Post Office, the compassion of the IRS, the costs of the Pentagon)
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To: April Lexington

This is some brazen brinksmanship. Simply brazen.


34 posted on 08/31/2009 9:18:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Proud Sarah-Bot.)
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To: cake_crumb
"In his first two weeks in office he pretty much maxed out credit with China, so who’s going to loan us THIS money?"

Well, it's pretty clear nobody wants to buy treasury notes judging by dismal sales the last two months, so Obama has been running the printing presses. If he runs them to pay for all this borrowing, he'll trigger hyperinflation for sure. China will probably start selling at the first sound of printing presses running however, and trigger a run before Obama gets too much run off.

35 posted on 08/31/2009 9:20:06 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Gabrial

If the US goes “bankrupt” before the world, the world can’t actually do anything to get something back unlike an actual bankruptcy. The world will simply be stiffed. What that would look like, I cannot imagine.


36 posted on 08/31/2009 9:21:17 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Proud Sarah-Bot.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

I wish there were some way to stop him. It’s terrifying.


37 posted on 08/31/2009 9:22:22 AM PDT by cake_crumb (86 44!)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Increasing the size of government and the cost that goes along with it requires a growing robust private sector business/industry to provide the increased revenues to pay for it.

The Republicans are smart... they know that tax revenues are just a smidgen of federal spending but they in cent small business and individuals. The economy takes off, more tax revenues are generated, Gault's Gulch empties out and the bitching stops from the productive class. If Obummer doesn't figure this out, he is either a socialist or an idiot (or, frankly, both). The private sector is in shock at the moment. Nobody is spending money on anything because nobody knows how bad its going to get.

38 posted on 08/31/2009 9:22:33 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"If the US goes “bankrupt” before the world, the world can’t actually do anything to get something back unlike an actual bankruptcy. The world will simply be stiffed. What that would look like, I cannot imagine."

Wanna bet? You'll need a suitcase full of money to buy a loaf of bread. Imports? forget it. Exports? They'll be very cheap. We'll become the "China of the west" working our butts of for what amounts to pennies a day compared to other currencies, and producing cheap junk- Government Motors cars etc. for the world.

39 posted on 08/31/2009 9:26:36 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: HiTech RedNeck
“If the US goes “bankrupt” before the world, the world can’t actually do anything to get something back unlike an actual bankruptcy. The world will simply be stiffed. What that would look like, I cannot imagine.”

Yes, that would be hard to imagine. If the bottom falls out of the dollar, perhaps the only way for the US to get the foreign goods it depends on would be to trade food.

Welcome to Bartertown

40 posted on 08/31/2009 9:29:51 AM PDT by Gabrial (ObamaCare: The efficiency of the Post Office, the compassion of the IRS, the costs of the Pentagon)
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