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ATF Raids Wallingford Mobile Home
My RecordJournal.com ^ | 05/15/09 | Mary Ellen Godin

Posted on 08/15/2009 6:26:44 AM PDT by epow

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To: Sybeck1
Got them jack boots on again it seems.

Yep, it's open season again on gun owners, and this time there's a real communist giving the orders. Clinton was just a wannabe dictator, but this guy is the real thing. The JBTs must really enjoy throwing children down on their faces and cuffing them with a gun at their head, they seem to do a lot of that kind of thing whenever they raid an innocent man's home and assault his family.

Apparently the JBTs expected a major OK Corral type firefight at the old man's home since they brought along 15 heavily armed agents and local cops to subdue that vicious, dangerous, gun-slinging criminal who with malice aforethought violently passed a bad check 34 years ago. Thus proving that he is still a highly dangerous threat to the lives and property of the entire community today, and can't be trusted to live in the same house with his father's gun collection.

21 posted on 08/15/2009 7:12:11 AM PDT by epow (Luke 11:21 "When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:")
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To: epow

How the government can kill citizens and get away with it.
Raid an innocent citizen’s house at 4 AM. The citizen uses his natural right to protect himself and his family and tries to repel the invader with deadly force.
The government’s forces (trained to never question orders) happily shoot the citizen.

The innocent citizen is dead, and a lawsuit will take years, and all you get is money, not your family member. The government forces talk over beers about how that a$$hole resisted, and how they were forced to use deadly force.


22 posted on 08/15/2009 7:21:54 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (fascism is wrong, even if practiced by the government)
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To: epow

Nice post, no clue what state Wallingford is in. There’s more than one BTW like that should be even be a question. It’s common sense. The article and the poster have no clue everyone doesn’t know which state this city is in.


23 posted on 08/15/2009 7:24:45 AM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: epow

Thanks.


24 posted on 08/15/2009 7:26:22 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: org.whodat
Whatever.

Actually, I wasn't wearing my tinfoil hat the day I was verbally assaulted at a regional BATF office during Clinton's war on FFL gun dealers, so I make sure I keep it handy nowadays.

If you happen to have a gun in your home, which is strictly your choice and your own business, you might want to know what can happen, and has happened, to innocent people when an out of control rogue agency such as BATF goes on the prowl backed by an administration with a Nazi mindset. It Gestapo style thuggery employed on innocent Americans in their own homes by a US federal agency doesn't bother you, sleep well and don't let yourself become alarmed by any of Obama's "change".

25 posted on 08/15/2009 7:29:02 AM PDT by epow (Luke 11:21 "When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:")
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To: epow

Welcome to life in Hussein’s Amerika! ATTRITION!! The PEOPLE will win through ATTRITION. If one good guy can take out one bad guy before they get him, Hussein will run out of brownshirts.


26 posted on 08/15/2009 7:30:01 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Eagles2003

Apparently Wallingford is in CT. The paper’s website doesn’t mention what state it’s in, but there is a Wallingford shown on my CT roadmap.


27 posted on 08/15/2009 7:38:11 AM PDT by epow (Luke 11:21 "When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:")
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To: epow

I knew that before I posted. But it’s like posting something happened in Springfield. Dam*, there’s more than one Springfield even in the same state.


28 posted on 08/15/2009 7:51:15 AM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: epow
The officers told the family that Paul Boynton could still be arrested because the keys to the gun rack were hanging up in the kitchen, Lynne Boynton said.
I thought Heller ruled clearly that laws requiring locks, disassembly, etc. preventing the immediate availability for protection were unconstitutional? The court despite making this finding didn't address the effect of the ruling on state gun lock laws and criminal liability when someone is hurt or killed by someone "finding" and discharging an inside the home weapon? Anyone?
29 posted on 08/15/2009 7:56:37 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (I'm an ABC type of guy - Anybody But Crist!)
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To: Eagles2003

I was wondering too. Looks like it’s in Connecticut or at least in the New England area.


30 posted on 08/15/2009 7:57:38 AM PDT by BILLNHILL MAKE ME ILL (Onward thru the smoke and mirrors...)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
How the government can kill citizens and get away with it

And that does happen just as you described, it really does, and right here in the good old USA where everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I think that's the place in the Constitution where we're supposed to laugh.

If anyone thinks I'm exaggerating the facts about BATF just ask Randy Weaver how his wife and 14 YO son are getting along these days thanks to BATF's JBTs.

31 posted on 08/15/2009 8:31:11 AM PDT by epow (Luke 11:21 "When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:")
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A usually quiet mobile home park ...

Stop right there. I’m willing to bet there is no such thing as a “usually quiet mobile home park”.


32 posted on 08/15/2009 8:37:14 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Tunehead54
I thought Heller ruled clearly that laws requiring locks, disassembly, etc. preventing the immediate availability for protection were unconstitutional?

If I understand correctly, and I may not, Heller only applies to the DC, although the court did rule that the 2nd protects an individual right rather than merely a right of the states.

I don't fully understand the practice of the judiciary "incorporating" a BOR amendment into the 14th Amendment, which supposedly guarantees all the Constitutional rights to all the people. I'm no law expert by any means, but the so-called "incorporation doctrine" sounds to me like just another excuse invented by the courts to deny the people the rights we were supposedly guaranteed by the authors of the Constitution.

33 posted on 08/15/2009 8:50:41 AM PDT by epow (Luke 11:21 "When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:")
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
I’m willing to bet there is no such thing as a “usually quiet mobile home park”.

Oh yeah, there are plenty of very quiet mobile home parks in south Florida where I used to live. Shuffleboard is a quiet game unless a couple of unusually spry nonagenarians (90+ year olds) get into a squabble over whose turn it is to shuffle.

34 posted on 08/15/2009 9:00:20 AM PDT by epow (Luke 11:21 "When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:")
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A usually quiet mobile home park..

I stopped right there.
There's no such thing as a 'quiet mobile home Trailer park'.

35 posted on 08/15/2009 9:13:29 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: epow
Wrong on all counts I was a member of the NRA for more years than I can remember. However, if everyone here just posted their own little pet projections, it would not be worth visiting. My objection was the news is the news, old news is chat!
36 posted on 08/15/2009 11:05:40 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: epow
"At the end of it when they didn't find nothing, they were real nice," Gilman Boynton said.

There are some good cops, but you can't tell the difference by looking.

37 posted on 08/15/2009 2:27:20 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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Gilman Boynton is a gun collector, who keeps his rifles in a locked case on the wall, and a Beretta pistol in a safe. On Friday, ATF officers confiscated 14 rifles from the gun case and took his permits...



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38 posted on 08/15/2009 5:19:18 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: epow

This article is three months old and it was posted to FR when it was current.


39 posted on 08/16/2009 6:21:57 AM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (He must fail.)
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WALLINGFORD - Three months after officers with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives raided a mobile home on Hosford Bridge Road and seized 14 guns, the home's owner still has many questions.

Gilman Boynton, 76, said that despite his repeated efforts to get an explanation, he has not been informed of the reason why ATF officials conducted the raid. He said the seizure has left him feeling like his second amendment rights have been violated.

“I've got three questions I want answered,” Boynton said. “Why were we targeted? What were they looking for? And who were they after?”

Federal officials said this week they were acting on “credible intelligence” and that their investigation revealed the agents acted appropriately when they seized the weapons.

The raid took place in the early morning hours on May 15, when agents awoke Boynton, his son Paul Gilman Boynton, 51, and daughter-in-law Lynne Boynton, 50, and proceeded to search the entire home.

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They left one weapon, a Beretta that was locked in a safe, and have since returned two others - guns made before 1898, which federal law considers antiques, not firearms.

Gilman Boynton said ATF officials were cordial when the returned the two guns but that he was told he won't be able to reclaim his other weapons.

Lynne and Paul Boynton declined comment for this article.

James McNally, spokesman for the ATF Boston Field Division, said Wednesday that agents followed protocol throughout the case and clarified that the guns would not be returned because the investigation found that living arrangements led to violations of U.S. codes.

“ATF followed the information they received and made a determination that the best course of action was to seize the guns,” McNally said. “After reviewing the facts of the case, there were no charges filed and will be no charges unless there is a significant change in the case, but the guns will not be returned.”

By having the guns in the home at the same time as Boynton’s son, ATF officials said the family was in violation of code 18 USC 622(d) which restricts certain groups from owning guns or living in home where guns are accessible.

Boynton said his son had been staying in the home to assist with a family medical issue, but ATF officials said because certain guns were accessible it violated federal law.

A criminal history report obtained from the Connecticut Department of Public Safety Wednesday revealed that although there have not been any active cases since 1992 regarding Paul Boynton, he had several prior arrests including felony convictions for drug possession and forgery. These convictions violate two sections of the code and require that officials take action to seize the weapons.

But for Gilman Boynton, the seizure of a collection that he spent more than 60 years building has seemed more than a little unfair.

“I've lived at this location, largely without my son present, for more than 40 years,” he said. “I've kept my gun permit the whole time. Don't I have certain rights to my property?”

Boynton has tried to seek legal assistance but was told he didn't qualify for low-cost programs because of the type of case, and added that the only lawyer who would take his request has asked for a $20,000 retainer that he can't afford.

It's not about money or even getting his weapons back at this point, Boynton said, but about finding a way to protect the his second amendment rights and the rights of other low-income earners who do not have the money to take an agency like the ATF to court to regain their property.

“Honestly, if they had come back to me and said ‘we were wrong’ or ‘our information wasn't exact’ and just returned my items, I'd have been more than happy to be done with it,” he said. “Right now my focus is making sure others don't suffer the same kind of loss I have.” WALLINGFORD - Three months after officers with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives raided a mobile home on Hosford Bridge Road and seized 14 guns, the home's owner still has many questions. Gilman Boynton, 76, said that despite his repeated efforts to get an explanation, he has not been informed of the reason why ATF officials conducted the raid. He said the seizure has left him feeling like his second amendment rights have been violated. "I've got three questions I want answered," Boynton said. "Why were we targeted? What were they looking for? And who were they after?" Federal officials said this week they were acting on "credible intelligence" and that their investigation revealed the agents acted appropriately when they seized the weapons. The raid took place in the early morning hours on May 15, when agents awoke Boynton, his son Paul Gilman Boynton, 51, and daughter-in-law Lynne Boynton, 50, and proceeded to search the entire home. Advertisement They left one weapon, a Beretta that was locked in a safe, and have since returned two others - guns made before 1898, which federal law considers antiques, not firearms. Gilman Boynton said ATF officials were cordial when the returned the two guns but that he was told he won't be able to reclaim his other weapons. Lynne and Paul Boynton declined comment for this article. James McNally, spokesman for the ATF Boston Field Division, said Wednesday that agents followed protocol throughout the case and clarified that the guns would not be returned because the investigation found that living arrangements led to violations of U.S. codes. "ATF followed the information they received and made a determination that the best course of action was to seize the guns," McNally said. "After reviewing the facts of the case, there were no charges filed and will be no charges unless there is a significant change in the case, but the guns will not be returned." By having the guns in the home at the same time as Boynton's son, ATF officials said the family was in violation of code 18 USC 622(d) which restricts certain groups from owning guns or living in home where guns are accessible. Boynton said his son had been staying in the home to assist with a family medical issue, but ATF officials said because certain guns were accessible it violated federal law. A criminal history report obtained from the Connecticut Department of Public Safety Wednesday revealed that although there have not been any active cases since 1992 regarding Paul Boynton, he had several prior arrests including felony convictions for drug possession and forgery. These convictions violate two sections of the code and require that officials take action to seize the weapons. But for Gilman Boynton, the seizure of a collection that he spent more than 60 years building has seemed more than a little unfair. "I've lived at this location, largely without my son present, for more than 40 years," he said. "I've kept my gun permit the whole time. Don't I have certain rights to my property?" Boynton has tried to seek legal assistance but was told he didn't qualify for low-cost programs because of the type of case, and added that the only lawyer who would take his request has asked for a $20,000 retainer that he can't afford. It's not about money or even getting his weapons back at this point, Boynton said, but about finding a way to protect the his second amendment rights and the rights of other low-income earners who do not have the money to take an agency like the ATF to court to regain their property. "Honestly, if they had come back to me and said 'we were wrong' or 'our information wasn't exact' and just returned my items, I'd have been more than happy to be done with it," he said. "Right now my focus is making sure others don't suffer the same kind of loss I have."

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40 posted on 08/16/2009 8:25:56 AM PDT by secretagent
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