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Orly Taitz responds to forgery charges
Salon ^ | Aug. 4, 2009 | Alex Koppelman

Posted on 08/04/2009 11:27:49 AM PDT by Plutarch

Orly Taitz, the Birther lawyer who released the document that was supposedly a copy of President Obama's Kenyan birth certificate, has now taken to her blog with an angry screed in response to the evidence that her find is in fact a poorly done forgery.

Referring to the discovery that the purportedly Kenyan document was almost certainly based on a copy of a birth certificate issued for an Australian man, David Jeffrey Bomford, Taitz writes, "Recently Obama’s thugs in main stream (sic) media came up with this Bomford report in order to stop my efforts in exposing and prosecuting Obama. Though typically I don’t have time to waste on each and every dumb obot, since it got to National TV and my children's friends called my children, I’ll spend a few minutes to debunk the obots." She continues...


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KEYWORDS: afterbirthers; article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; orly; orlytaitz; taitz
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Well, it wasn't a poorly done forgery, because the combined efforts of FR were not able to discredit it until the Australian BC was found. In posting prior to vetting the Kenya BC, Orly didn't do the 'Birther' movement any favors, and in persisting to defend the Kenya BC, she isn't doing herself any favors.
1 posted on 08/04/2009 11:27:50 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch

The reason it’s so damaging is because it was a pretty well done forgery! I wonder who did it??


2 posted on 08/04/2009 11:29:56 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Plutarch

bump


3 posted on 08/04/2009 11:30:19 AM PDT by hoe_cake (A member of the Society of the Descendants of the Signers of the Constitution.)
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To: CaribouCrossing

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4 posted on 08/04/2009 11:32:41 AM PDT by CaribouCrossing
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To: babble-on

No, the reason it’s damaging to her is it’s because she’s tied at the hip to Alan Keyes.


5 posted on 08/04/2009 11:34:12 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Stop meddling in the affairs of countries and individuals Obama!)
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To: Plutarch
What nonsense you speak.

The Orly B/C isn't a forgery based on the Bomford B/C.

It might very well turn out to be a forgery - that's why it need to be authenticated against the registry.

But its not a forgery just because somebody made their own fake.

Neither it is a forgery just because somebody else made a version with different letters and numbers.

And if a thousand gaywads from SomethingAwful make a thousand new forgeries tomorrow, each with its own spectacular backstory, that still doesn't reflect on the authenticity or otherwise of the Orly B/C

Only comparison with the primary sources can tell us about the authenticity of the Orly B/C.

6 posted on 08/04/2009 11:36:23 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Plutarch
"Recently Obama’s thugs in main stream (sic) media

Sic main stream media, indeed. I'm afraid that's probably a misspelling for "sick."

7 posted on 08/04/2009 11:37:43 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Plutarch
Or was it the Bomford BC that was as a forgery to impeach the Obama's BC? -----------------------------

To: Swordmaker; Jim Robinson

Hold the Presses! My daughter just showed me something.

She had me open both the Australian and Kenyan documents in Photoshop Elements. From there she had me under the Image menu "Divide Scanned Photos". Nothing appeared on the Kenyan document, however six layers pealed away from the Australian one.

These layers all showed distortion.
Layer 1 - Date and Place of Birth
Layer 2 - Father (followed by) Name, Surname, Age and B
Layer 3 - Name, Surname and Birthplace
Layer 4 - Issue { Living Deceased
Layer 5 - Signature, Description Informant
Layer 6 - The entire right section of the page, specifically the inserted text fields and bottom right quadrant

Will post these late tomorrow afternoon. The interesting thing about Photoshop elements is that on edited photos it will pull them apart. On unedited photos there will be no layering. All of the separated layers exhibited a great deal of pixel distortion around the letters.

I believe the Australian certificate is a fraud. I can not confirm the authenticity of the Kenyan document.

Will be heading to bed shortly.
1,390 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:18:21 AM by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)

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8 posted on 08/04/2009 11:37:51 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Plutarch
Wait, wait, wait.

The so called Australian BC is the forgery - the jury has not returned its verdict on the Kenya thingy. Many have rendered pre-verdict verdicts, the same, tired arguments come up every 20 posts or so, but the Fat Lady did not sing.

9 posted on 08/04/2009 11:38:49 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Plutarch

If Taitz’ BC is a graphic image, then I would say it was copied from the Aussie BC and she has been duped.

If her BC is on paper, then I would say that the Aussie BC (which so far is just a graphic image file) was copied from her BC.

In either case, someone is going to a great deal of trouble to fog up the original issue, and to discredit the people who are asking the original questions which are: where is the original Hawaiian BC? And what citizenship did O claim when he was in college.

With all the effort out there to dig through every detail of Palin’s life, you’d think a bit of effort could be spared to ask these two rather basic and very simple questions.

Instead what we get are a storm of ad hominems, and obvious efforts at counterfeiting in order to confuse and difuse the issue. But the issue is still there, and the question has yet to be answered.

Where is the original Hawaiian birth certificate? And what citizenship did Obama claim in college. If you’re a journalist, answer these questions and you’ve got your Pulitzer. You might be looking for a job, though.


10 posted on 08/04/2009 11:40:27 AM PDT by marron
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To: Plutarch

Since when is “Salon” considered to be a reputable source for anything, much less something this important?

I read the pieces you linked on Salon, and they’re typical leftist bilge water.


11 posted on 08/04/2009 11:41:06 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just say NO to national socialism!)
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Document # 47O44 just happens to be about the “47” year old “0”bama who is the “44”th President?

Wow! What a coincidence!!!

12 posted on 08/04/2009 11:41:14 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: Plutarch

This appears to be a set-up designed to produce just this result.

Step 1: Anonymous Obama-bot forges Kenyan birth certificate and sends it to Orly.

Step 2: After Orly is lured into putting her credibility behind the Kenyan birth certificate, the Bomford template is publicly revealed by the Obama-bot, undercutting Orly.

The problem arose in that the so-called “birther” side was coming to the conclusion that the Kenyan birth certificate was faked, so the originators of the fraud had to come out earlier than they wanted to with the Bomford template.

WND was already backing away from it last night.

Perhaps Orly was hoping that, questionable or not, it could be a sufficient basis to allow a court to have Kenyan records checked, and who knows what Kenyan records would reveal as to Barack obama.

Obviously, the fakers could not allow it to come to that, so they had to spring their trap earlier than they wanted.

Orly should not be putting her reputation on the purported Kenyan document.


13 posted on 08/04/2009 11:42:23 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: agere_contra; Plutarch
Only comparison with the primary sources can tell us about the authenticity of the Orly B/C.

What's wrong Plutarch, cat got your tongue or does this basic logic escape you totally?
14 posted on 08/04/2009 11:42:29 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: I am Richard Brandon; Red Steel
The so called Australian BC is the forgery

This is the conclusion I'm coming to.

It has done its job, muddying the water. Someone is going to a great deal of trouble to avoid answering some very simple and very basic questions.

I have to say, I love FR. Breaking this thing down is some very good work.

15 posted on 08/04/2009 11:43:38 AM PDT by marron
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To: Plutarch
she isn't doing herself any favors.

So what else is new?

16 posted on 08/04/2009 11:43:46 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: agere_contra
And if a thousand gaywads from SomethingAwful make a thousand new forgeries tomorrow, each with its own spectacular backstory, that still doesn't reflect on the authenticity or otherwise of the Orly B/C

This seems to be the logically proper conclusion. If a guy counterfeits a dollar, does that mean the dollar in your pocket is counterfeit?

Ridiculous. Once again, the anti-birthers seem to come out of this round bleeding as a result of their own flailing.

*tih remains agnostic on the BC issue though the circumstantial developments do tempt.

17 posted on 08/04/2009 11:45:02 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: agere_contra

you speak the TRUTH.


18 posted on 08/04/2009 11:46:49 AM PDT by bareford101 (Give me liberty, or give me death!)
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To: agere_contra
Wierdly enough: this Australian forgery seems to have been an attempt to mirror the data on the hacked version of the Orly B/C.

The Orly original has 'K. F. Lavender” and the number is 47,644

The hacked one is E.F. Lavender and 46044.

Unless that's the wrong way around - the 'Double Take Thread' is over 1800 posts and I can't be sure if there's been a synthesis yet.

19 posted on 08/04/2009 11:49:37 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: the invisib1e hand
*tih remains agnostic on the BC issue

So does everybody else that I'm aware of who has led in this fight.

Having said that, I haven't seen anything yet that disproves it.

20 posted on 08/04/2009 11:50:26 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just say NO to national socialism!)
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