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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Powers is dead on right IMHO. Gates could not have been arrested inside his home without a warrant under the circumstances thus far.

People may disagree on whether or not Gates was lured outside. I read the report and that was the first thing that came to my mind. If I was betting on it, and had cop under sodium pent., thats where my money would go.

parsy.


9 posted on 08/01/2009 6:08:32 PM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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So if you were the cop and had a report of two possible suspects in a house, you would have gone right inside instead of asking them to come out?


10 posted on 08/01/2009 6:09:47 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Conservative criticism of the liberal media: www.finkelblog.com)
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To: parsifal

“Powers is dead on right IMHO.”

Gates acted suspiciously by not cooperating with the cop. Arrogantly threatening Crowley made it worse. Yelling at a cop and talking about his momma is never a good idea.

I think Crowley did the right thing up to a point. Asking Gates to go outside, provided witnesses to Gates bad behavior.

If I had been Crowley I would have tasered him. He had it coming.


16 posted on 08/01/2009 6:15:50 PM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: parsifal

“Powers is dead on right IMHO.”

Gates acted suspiciously by not cooperating with the cop. Arrogantly threatening Crowley made it worse. Yelling at a cop and talking about his momma is never a good idea.

I think Crowley did the right thing up to a point. Asking Gates to go outside, provided witnesses to Gates bad behavior.

If I had been Crowley I would have tasered him. He had it coming.


17 posted on 08/01/2009 6:15:58 PM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: parsifal
People may disagree on whether or not Gates was lured outside. I read the
report and that was the first thing that came to my mind. If I was betting
on it, and had cop under sodium pent., thats where my money would go.


18 posted on 08/01/2009 6:16:32 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Win the War On Poverty - Stop bringing in foreign reinforcements for the other side.)
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To: parsifal
People may disagree on whether or not Gates was lured outside. I read the report and that was the first thing that came to my mind. If I was betting on it, and had cop under sodium pent., thats where my money would go.

I find it sad that you think all policemen are liars and should be drugged into telling the truth. A society where that were true surely deserves destruction. Is your real name Henry Gates by any chance?

If there were someone or several someones in the house with a gun holding the Gates family hostage, the one thing the any police officer would want to do is get the individual outside where he would be safe and could tell him what he couldn't inside without being overheard and getting both of them killed.

All Gates had to do to avoid being arrested was not to go into racist hysterics. But alas, that was too much for him to avoid doing.

23 posted on 08/01/2009 6:20:27 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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To: parsifal
I heard Sgt. Crowley - the one believable person in the entire episode - say that he was following departmental procedure. He asked Gates to step outside because it is not safe for a policeman to enter a dwelling without backup due to the fact that he could get ambushed by other people who could be hiding in the house.

I could not believe that one of the more conservative members of the panel did not speak up to contradict Kirsten - especially since she made a point of saying it more than once. Her story is ridiculous because he asked him to step outside before the real confrontation occurred not because he could not arrest him unless he was outside of the house!

I used to think that she was one of the more reasonable liberal commentators, but she is a real piece of work. Although she is a native of Alaska, she wasted no time stabbing Sarah Palin in the back.
32 posted on 08/01/2009 6:27:27 PM PDT by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: parsifal

Powers is dead wrong IMHO. Gates was told that (Crowley) was leaving and he could come outside if he had anymore questions. Gates didn’t have to go outside and he didn’t have to yell at the cops. It was his choice. He could have stayed on the phone with the police station.

I can’t read minds, etc. but when I read the line about going outside, it seemed that it was an attempt by Crowley to diffuse the situation.

I doubt the cops would have hung around much once they determined he was the owner and there were no intruders in the house.


37 posted on 08/01/2009 6:33:13 PM PDT by PrincessB
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