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Revolt: Major Science Group 'Startled' By Outpouring of Scientists Rejecting Man-Made Climate Fears!
Climate Depot ^ | July 29, 2009 | Marc Morano

Posted on 07/29/2009 5:35:39 PM PDT by ClimateDepot.com

Scientists seek to remove climate fear promoting editor and 'trade him to New York Times or Washington Post' Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - By Marc Morano – Climate Depot

Climate Depot Exclusive

An outpouring of skeptical scientists who are members of the American Chemical Society (ACS) are revolting against the group's editor-in-chief -- with some demanding he be removed -- after an editorial appeared claiming “the science of anthropogenic climate change is becoming increasingly well established.”

The editorial claimed the "consensus" view was growing "increasingly difficult to challenge, despite the efforts of diehard climate-change deniers.” The editor now admits he is "startled" by the negative reaction from the group's scientific members.

The June 22, 2009 editorial in Chemical and Engineering News by editor in chief Rudy Baum, is facing widespread blowback and condemnation from American Chemical Society member scientists. Baum concluded his editorial by stating that “deniers” are attempting to “derail meaningful efforts to respond to global climate change.”

Dozens of letters were published on July 27, 2009 castigating Baum, with some scientists calling for his replacement as editor-in-chief.

The editorial was met with a swift, passionate and scientific rebuke from Baum's colleagues. Virtually all of the letters published on July 27 in castigated Baum's climate science views. Scientists rebuked Baum's use of the word “deniers” because of the terms “association with Holocaust deniers.” In addition, the scientists called Baum's editorial: “disgusting”; “a disgrace”; “filled with misinformation”; “unworthy of a scientific periodical” and “pap.”

One outraged ACS member wrote to Baum: "When all is said and done, and you and your kind are proven wrong (again), you will have moved on to be an unthinking urn for another rat pleading catastrophe. You will be removed. I promise."

Baum 'startled' by scientists reaction

Baum wrote on July 27, that he was "startled" and "surprised" by the "contempt" and "vehemence" of the ACS scientists to his view of the global warming "consensus."

"Some of the letters I received are not fit to print. Many of the letters we have printed are, I think it is fair to say, outraged by my position on global warming," Baum wrote.

Selected Excerpts of Skeptical Scientists:

“I think it's time to find a new editor,” ACS member Thomas E. D'Ambra wrote. Geochemist R. Everett Langford wrote: “I am appalled at the condescending attitude of Rudy Baum, Al Gore, President Barack Obama, et al., who essentially tell us that there is no need for further research—that the matter is solved.”

ACS scientist Dennis Malpass wrote: “Your editorial was a disgrace. It was filled with misinformation, half-truths, and ad hominem attacks on those who dare disagree with you. Shameful!”

ACS member scientist Dr. Howard Hayden, a Physics Professor Emeritus from the University of Connecticut: “Baum's remarks are particularly disquieting because of his hostility toward skepticism, which is part of every scientist's soul. Let's cut to the chase with some questions for Baum: Which of the 20-odd major climate models has settled the science, such that all of the rest are now discarded? [...] Do you refer to 'climate change' instead of 'global warming' because the claim of anthropogenic global warming has become increasingly contrary to fact?"

Edward H. Gleason wrote: “Baum's attempt to close out debate goes against all my scientific training, and to hear this from my ACS is certainly alarming to me...his use of 'climate-change deniers' to pillory scientists who do not believe climate change is a crisis is disingenuous and unscientific.”

Atmospheric Chemist Roger L. Tanner: "I have very little in common with the philosophy of the Heartland Institute and other 'free-market fanatics,' and I consider myself a progressive Democrat. Nevertheless, we scientists should know better than to propound scientific truth by consensus and to excoriate skeptics with purple prose."

William Tolley: "I take great offense that Baum would use Chemical and Engineering News, for which I pay dearly each year in membership dues, to purvey his personal views and so glibly ignore contrary information and scold those of us who honestly find these views to be a hoax."

William E. Keller wrote: “However bitter you (Baum) personally may feel about CCDs (climate change deniers), it is not your place as editor to accuse them—falsely—of nonscientific behavior by using insultingly inappropriate language. [...] The growing body of scientists, whom you abuse as sowing doubt, making up statistics, and claiming to be ignored by the media, are, in the main, highly competent professionals, experts in their fields, completely honorable, and highly versed in the scientific method—characteristics that apparently do not apply to you.”

ACS member Wallace Embry: “I would like to see the American Chemical Society Board 'cap' Baum's political pen and 'trade' him to either the New York Times or Washington Post." [To read the more reactions from scientists to Baum's editorial go here and see below.]

Physicists Dr. Lubos Motl, who publishes the Reference Frame website, weighed in on the controversy as well, calling Baum's editorial an "alarmist screed."

“Now, the chemists are thinking about replacing this editor who has hijacked the ACS bulletin to promote his idiosyncratic political views," Motl wrote on July 27, 2009.

Baum cites discredited Obama Administration Climate Report

To “prove” his assertion that the science was “becoming increasingly well established,” Baum cited the Obama Administration's U.S. Global Change Research Program (USGCRP) study as evidence that the science was settled. [Climate Depot Editor's Note: Baum's grasp of the latest “science” is embarrassing. For Baum to cite the June 2009 Obama Administration report as “evidence” that science is growing stronger exposes him as having very poor research skills. See this comprehensive report on scientists rebuking that report. See: 'Scaremongering': Scientists Pan Obama Climate Report: 'This is not a work of science but an embarrassing episode for the authors and NOAA'...'Misrepresents the science' - July 8, 2009 )

Baum also touted the Congressional climate bill as “legislation with real teeth to control the emission of greenhouse gases.” [Climate Depot Editor's Note: This is truly laughable that an editor-in-chief at the American Chemical Society could say the climate bill has “real teeth.” This statement should be retracted in full for lack of evidence. The Congressional climate bill has outraged environmental groups for failing to impact global temperatures and failing to even reduce emissions! See: Climate Depot Editorial: Climate bill offers (costly) non-solutions to problems that don't even exist - No detectable climate impact: 'If we actually faced a man-made 'climate crisis', we would all be doomed' June 20, 2009 ]

The American Chemical Society's scientific revolt is the latest in a series of recent eruptions against the so-called “consensus” on man-made global warming.

On May 1 2009, the American Physical Society (APS) Council decided to review its current climate statement via a high-level subcommittee of respected senior scientists. The decision was prompted after a group of 54 prominent physicists petitioned the APS revise its global warming position. The 54 physicists wrote to APS governing board: “Measured or reconstructed temperature records indicate that 20th - 21st century changes are neither exceptional nor persistent, and the historical and geological records show many periods warmer than today.”

The petition signed by the prominent physicists, led by Princeton University's Dr. Will Happer, who has conducted 200 peer-reviewed scientific studies. The peer-reviewed journal Nature published a July 22, 2009 letter by the physicists persuading the APS to review its statement. In 2008, an American Physical Society editor conceded that a “considerable presence” of scientific skeptics exists.

In addition, in April 2009, the Polish National Academy of Science reportedly “published a document that expresses skepticism over the concept of man-made global warming.” An abundance of new peer-reviewed scientific studies continue to be published challenging the UN IPCC climate views. (See: Climate Fears RIP...for 30 years!? - Global Warming could stop 'for up to 30 years! Warming 'On Hold?...'Could go into hiding for decades,' peer-reviewed study finds – Discovery.com – March 2, 2009 & Peer-Reviewed Study Rocks Climate Debate! 'Nature not man responsible for recent global warming...little or none of late 20th century warming and cooling can be attributed to humans' – July 23, 2009 )

A March 2009 a 255-page U. S. Senate Report detailed "More Than 700 International Scientists Dissenting Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims." 2009's continued lack of warming, further frustrated the promoters of man-made climate fears. See: Earth's 'Fever' Breaks! Global temperatures 'have plunged .74°F since Gore released An Inconvenient Truth' – July 5, 2009

In addition, the following developments further in 2008 challenged the “consensus” of global warming. India Issued a report challenging global warming fears; a canvass of more than 51,000 Canadian scientists revealed 68% disagree that global warming science is “settled”; A Japan Geoscience Union symposium survey in 2008 reportedly “showed 90 per cent of the participants do not believe the IPCC report.” Scientific meetings are now being dominated by a growing number of skeptical scientists. The prestigious International Geological Congress, dubbed the geologists' equivalent of the Olympic Games, was held in Norway in August 2008 and prominently featured the voices of scientists skeptical of man-made global warming fears. [See: Skeptical scientists overwhelm conference: '2/3 of presenters and question-askers were hostile to, even dismissive of, the UN IPCC' & see full reports here & here - Also see: UN IPCC's William Schlesinger admits in 2009 that only 20% of IPCC scientists deal with climate ] Selected Excerpted Highlights of American Chemical

See Climate Depot for full article.


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1 posted on 07/29/2009 5:35:39 PM PDT by ClimateDepot.com
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Ha ha, the hard scientists and engineers don’t tend to tolerate hysterical unscientific bullcrap.


2 posted on 07/29/2009 5:37:47 PM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: thecabal

bttt


3 posted on 07/29/2009 5:39:22 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: ClimateDepot.com
My husband is a chemist and has subscribed to C&E News for years.

I hadn't seen this issue yet, but it looks like Baum has really stepped in it. The ACS is a very thoughtful, professional, and scientific body.

Hopefully they'll get rid of this loon before he does something worse.

4 posted on 07/29/2009 5:40:08 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: ClimateDepot.com; Genesis defender; proud_yank; grey_whiskers; FrPR; enough_idiocy; Desdemona; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

5 posted on 07/29/2009 5:41:12 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" - Lady Thatcher)
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To: ClimateDepot.com

bump


6 posted on 07/29/2009 5:41:51 PM PDT by annieokie (i)
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To: ClimateDepot.com
Man-Made Global Warming Is Real - I Say!


7 posted on 07/29/2009 5:44:53 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: AnAmericanMother

Scientists of all stripes have good reason to be concerned about the voodoo scientists of global warming. Voodoo science hurts hard science.


8 posted on 07/29/2009 5:47:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: ClimateDepot.com

I live in Ohio. It’s now July 29th. I have yet to turn on my air-conditioning this year, not once, not for a moment. I’m afraid the glaciers are coming back.


9 posted on 07/29/2009 5:48:27 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: cripplecreek

Well, the ACS is full of serious, hard scientists. They’re chemists and ChemEs - you don’t get much more serious than that.


10 posted on 07/29/2009 5:48:31 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: TexasCajun

Thank God a piece of dog crap like Al Gore never got to be president.


11 posted on 07/29/2009 5:49:28 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (If Randy Cunningham is in prison for corruption, then why isn't Diane Feinstein locked up as well?)
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To: ClimateDepot.com
...his use of 'climate-change deniers' to pillory scientists who do not believe climate change is a crisis is disingenuous and unscientific.”

Absolutely correct. There is only one word to describe the use of this term, deniers, and that is POLITICAL.

It is in fact an attempt to set the mind to link those who deny AGW to those who deny the Holocaust of Jews under Nazi Germany. It was an outrageous assertion when I first heard it years ago, and still boils my blood today.

First, it insults those survivors of the totalitarian genocides of the 1930s and 40s to compare it to scientists having a disagreement of fact. Secondly, shouldn't a scientist be skeptical if the evidence is vague and incomplete? As Dr Hayden from UCONN so well stated, “Baum's remarks are particularly disquieting because of his hostility toward skepticism, which is part of every scientist's soul."

Baum is no scientist. Heck, he's not even an editor. He is a POLITICIAN. That's all AGW is--politics.

12 posted on 07/29/2009 5:54:41 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: ClimateDepot.com

Well, I guess since the monies have dried up, now everyone wants to get out in front of the truth.


13 posted on 07/29/2009 5:56:09 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection)
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To: OldDeckHand
I’m afraid the glaciers are coming back.

The upside is they will bring more rocks. The better upside is that you won't have to dig them out of your fields. You won't live that long.

/johnny

14 posted on 07/29/2009 5:56:28 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: ClimateDepot.com
IMO the meat of the article:

ACS member scientist Dr. Howard Hayden, a Physics Professor Emeritus from the University of Connecticut: “Baum's remarks are particularly disquieting because of his hostility toward skepticism, which is part of every scientist's soul. Let's cut to the chase with some questions for Baum: Which of the 20-odd major climate models has settled the science, such that all of the rest are now discarded? [...] Do you refer to 'climate change' instead of 'global warming' because the claim of anthropogenic global warming has become increasingly contrary to fact?"

15 posted on 07/29/2009 5:59:35 PM PDT by NathanR
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To: ClimateDepot.com

This article needs to be read in full in the Senate when the Cap and Tax bill comes up.


16 posted on 07/29/2009 6:03:31 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: ClimateDepot.com

This is just great.


17 posted on 07/29/2009 6:04:25 PM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: ClimateDepot.com

Wednesday, July 08, 2009

Consensus

(Click on the cartoon to see the entire image.)
(C)Copyright 2009, C. Burke. All rights reserved.


A long time ago, I learned that Science was about observation, data and proof, and there was always room for debate. And, the ones using the word 'deniers' should get a new dictionary and look up the word 'consensus'.

Ironically, this kind of Inquisition could stifle the most inquisitive minds.



18 posted on 07/29/2009 6:04:59 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: thecabal
“Ha ha, the hard scientists and engineers don’t tend to tolerate hysterical unscientific bullcrap.”

Unless they are funded by pro climate change grant money.
Then they put out, just like a hooker for pay.

19 posted on 07/29/2009 6:06:06 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
"Thank God a piece of dog crap like Al Gore never got to be president."

Sorry, a piece of dog crap like him just did.

But I suspect you knew that :)

20 posted on 07/29/2009 6:16:39 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Buck Ofama!!)
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