Posted on 07/27/2009 5:54:29 PM PDT by pissant
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http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090727/BREAKING01/90727082/Obama+Hawaii+born++insist+Isle+officials
So what’s the problem????!!!!?????
Release the birth cert for crying out loud!!!
HE was impeached. It weakened him considerably. The GOP captured and maintained both houses, and Algore lost to GWB. So all in all, not bad.
I want to see the long birth certificate. If it says he was born at home, I want to see his school applications and his loan applications for every school he attended.
Obama would not be eligible to serve as President in several different ways. Let’s see his original long form birth certificate in court.
thanx
Why don’t you start citing some cases instead of alluding to stuff?
This statement is no substitute for discovery in court.
Just showing up at CNN's door with 'a long lost long form from amongst his mother's papers' isn't going to be credible because this POIE has been caught in too many lies and forged/altered documents already.
But let me ask you, guru, what would convince you that the current Oval Office resident is a fraud. liar, and/or criminal?
and address of his first home. So far the address reported belonged to someone else, owners and long time residents.
Where do you get this stuff?
Fact: Every child born in the United States to illegal aliens are just as much citizens as anyone whose every ancestor had come across on the Mayflower.
I'm not saying you have to like the fact. I'm not saying that I like the fact. All I am saying is that it has been recognized law for 140 years.
The "Dallas" in front of "DallasMike" is not for show. A huge percentage of the Dallas area is made up of illegal aliens and their 100% legal children.
Illegal alien kids are citizens, but are not NBC’s.
She said too much to maintain credibility. Is she now a trump to the SCOTUS, able to define natural born AMerican citizen?
Being born out of wedlock works in his favor in most of this if not all of this (except for the lying part of it.)
For example, in an in depth analysis of natural born citizenship by the court-
His out of wedlock birth status would be important if they deemed HIS allegiance was the determining factor..and since no UK citizenship..then no allegiance.
He is a lawyer. He should know whether he was a UK citizen. He claimed he was. This means that either Ann had a customary marriage in Kenya or Obamanazi was born in Kenya.
You're right. Now that she has chosen to weigh in on this, someone send her a subpoena and tell her to bring her vital records with her.
I guess you're right Dallas.
The facts didn't go so well for us about B.J. Clinton so we should just curl up in a little fetal ball and not question anything about anyone in .Gov every again.
Thanks! Now go back to DU.
In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then all that was required was that one of the parents send in a birth certificate to be filed. The birth certificate could be filed by mail. There appears to have been no requirement for the parent to actually physically appear before “the local registrar of the district.” It would have been very easy for a relative to forge an absent parent’s signature to a form and mail it in. In addition, if a claim was made that “neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate.” (Section 57-8&9) I asked the Dept of Health what they currently ask for (in 2008) to back up a parent’s claim that a child was born in Hawaii. I was told that all they required was a proof of residence in Hawaii (e.g. a driver’s license [We know from interviews with her friends on Mercer Island in Washington State that Ann Dunham had acquired a driver’s license by the summer of 1961 at the age of 17] or telephone bill) and pre-natal (statement or report that a woman was pregnant) and post-natal (statement or report that a new-born baby has been examined) certification by a physician. On further enquiry, the employee that I spoke to informed me that the pre-natal and post-natal certifications had probably not been in force in the ‘60s. Even if they had been, there is and was no requirement for a physician or midwife to witness, state or report that the baby was born in Hawaii.
BC3. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then, up to the first birthday of the child, a “Delayed Certificate” could be filed, which required that “a summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the acceptance for delayed filing or the alteration [of a file] shall be endorsed on the certificates”, which “evidence shall be kept in a special permanent file.” The statute provided that “the probative value of a ‘delayed’ or ‘altered’ certificate shall be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence.” (See Section 57- 9, 18, 19 & 20 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).”
[In other words, this form of vault birth certificate, the Delayed Certificate, required no more than a statement before a government bureaucrat by one of the parents or (the law does not seem to me clear on this) one of Barack Obama’s grandparents. If the latter is true, Ann Dunham did not have to be present for this statement or even in the country.]
The above is why we need to see the birth certificate.
You can use whatever adjectives you want in front of the word "citizen." If Barack Obama was born in the United States, he is eligible to be president. Period. I hate to cite Wikipdedia, but it does a good job on this issue.
I can’t believe I’m having this conversation either.
We’re not TALKING about being a CITIZEN FGS! We’re talking about whether he is a NATURAL BORN citizen.
~~~~ ...”have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen.”
((Although I don’t believe she is a Constitutional attorney and equipped to equivocally confirm this condition is present:
natural-born American citizen”))
I am have on various threads. I can’t keep going round and round on this.
You can believe what you want. I have done the LEGAL research. How many around here bothered to find out that Ann could not have a customary and statutory marriage?
How many bothered to find out about the 1 year residency requirement for out of wedlock births?
How many assumed Obama was a UK citizen because his father was a UK citizen. Apparently, at least one attorney has not bothered to find out that isn’t true..and it borders on malpractice, IMO.
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