bama Hawaii born, insist Isle officials (Fukino says Obama is NBC)

Honolulu Advertiser | 7/27/09 | Danny Nikaso

[pissant]

Title and link only

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090727/BREAKING01/90727082/Obama+Hawaii+born++insist+Isle+officials

[real_patriotic_american]

Obama has left a long, long trail of suspicions!

[this is my country]

Yes from what I’ve read under the law Fukino can’t view it...she can only say there is a record “on file”. So now she’s authorized to read it and disclose info? What?

This needs to get to Judge Carter, Orly!

Yes, put her on the witness stand now!

[Uncle Chip]

This from The Plain Truth.com website

2. On June 7, 2009, a spokeswoman for the Hawaii Department of Health told a rather obvious lie (or engaged in a pretty transparent verbal deception) in another attempt to discourage further investigation into the issue of whether Barack Obama was born on Oahu. “The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past”, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo. “The department only issues ‘certifications’ of live births, and that is the ‘official birth certificate’ issued by the state of Hawaii, she said. ” [Honolulu Star Bulletin] http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html

This statement was false or deliberately very misleading. Here, from a Hawaii state document that was posted on June 10, 2009, is a description of how to apply for “the original Certificate of Live Birth” (the original birth certificate) as opposed to the Certification of Live Birth:

“In order to process your application [to prove native Hawaiian ancestry], DHHL [Department of Hawaiian Homelands] utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.

“Please note that DOH [Department of Health] no longer offers same day service. If you plan on picking up your certified DOH document(s), you should allow at least 10 working days for DOH to process your request(s), OR four to six weeks if you want your certified certificate(s) mailed to you.”

http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl

Ms. Okubo’s statement gave the false impression that Obama could not gain access to or release “the original Certificate of Live Birth”, and that it was the DOH’s policy rather than his own reluctance that was responsible for the holding back of this Certificate. This was an obvious deception. The document at the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands website indicates that at the time she made this statement it was false, and that a procedure was in place for application for “the original Certificate of Live Birth.”

Only the information on the original birth certificate, “the original Certificate of Live Birth”, can demonstrate to the people of the United States whether there is convincing evidence that he was actually born here or whether a relative or two (or possibly even Barack Obama himself) just made a statement to that effect to a low level bureaucrat.

3. On July 8, 2009 the web site World Net Daily reported that “The state, which had excluded the controversial document [the Certification of Live Birth] as proof of native Hawaiian status, has changed its policy and now makes a point of including it.”

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103408

Here is the new statement on the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands web site [July 8, 2009]. “The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts both Certificates of Live Birth [original birth certificates and the recently renamed abbreviated computer printouts] and Certifications of Live Birth [as the abbreviated computer printouts were up till recently called] because they are official government records documenting an individual’s birth… Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth) are preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health (DOH) no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth. When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth.”

http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl

The web site theobamafile.com picked up this significant change in procedure on the Dept of Hawaiian Homelands website on June 18, 2009. http://www.theobamafile.com/_BogusPOTUS/20090608.htm#HawaiiRuleChange

Sometime between June 10, 2009 and June 18, 2009 the State of Hawaii changed its rule on what documents and data were necessary to prove Hawaiian ancestry, thereby upgrading the apparent status of the abbreviated Certification of Live Birth which it had formerly regarded as insufficiently probative. Why?

4. On June 6, Janice Okubo, the Dept of Health spokeswoman, also told the Star Bulletin that “The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests.” There is a troubling ambiguity in this statement. A sophisticated forensic investigation would probably be able to determine whether the original paper Certificate of Live Birth was forged, altered, or authentic. But if the data from the original paper Certificates of Live Birth has been transferred to an electronic record and then the original documents were discarded, part of the data could easily have been changed in the transfer or subsequently altered. We know from a document posted on June 10, 2009 on the Department of Hawaiian Homelands website that up until very recently, the original paper Certificates of Live Birth were maintained by the Dept of Health, and copies of them were provided to confirm claims of Hawaiian ancestry. But if in June the Department of Hawaiian Homelands has decided that it will no longer require the original Certificate of Live Birth as proof for special privileges and the Department of Health spokesman says firmly that they will no longer provide copies of these original certificates, is it possible that, in the midst of the controversy over where Barack Obama was born, the Hawaiian state govt has destroyed the original paper certificate of live birth? This seems almost incredible to me, but the authorities have been so deceptive and evasive on this issue, that it cannot be dismissed as impossible.

[Faith]

A very fine parsing of words, yet again, by the infamous Miss Fukino.

I am VERY suspicious of this woman.

[pissant]

She and her spokesbabe Miss Okubo are quite the pair

[RummyChick]

ABSOLUTELY WRONG. This is something a court will have to decide. Find the court case that says THE ONLY NATURAL BORN CITIZENS ARE THOSE BORN ON US SOIL TO US CITIZENS.

Please don’t cite me the Minor case. It doesn’t say that.

[freekitty]

Maybe being born out of wedlock back than has something to do with him not being a natural born citizen.

[Caipirabob]

I think an original BC, not a COLB, certified would do fine as long as we can verify dates, times and associated doctors. This was let go too long, now most incomplete explanations won't carry any credibility. So yes, to an end, there would have to be very substantive evidence to back up the validity of any document presented now. It will be scrutinized to the extreme.

But we deserve the truth, regardless of any embarrassment to the racist b@stard p"resident".

[Know et al]

Let me ask the “birther” Freepers this, what evidence will you accept to prove his assertion of his birth?

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I resent your attitude and your calling the people on this thread “birthers”. You use the term in a demeaning way.

Since Obama has stonewalled on an issue that could have been settled quickly and easily long ago, he has lost all credibility with me.
I can only speak (write) for myself.

The way he has mishandled this issue has given me a sincere suspicion that he is hiding something from the public. Ergo, why would he hide almost all of his personal history.

Call me what ever you like but I only have his words and actions to judge whether he is being honest. In all honesty I do not believe he or his advisors have been forthright with the American public.

Once someone abuses my trust, I have a difficult time trusting again. Perhaps you are different but I suspect you are the same way.

[Signolife]

“Maybe we (you) can have a set of goal posts, which you promise not to move, that will satisfy your skepticism..”

Our forefathers, the framers of this great country, the authors of our constitution established the goal posts, quite clearly I might add. Problem is Obama and his minions have scored a perceived touchdown on a highly questionable play and many of us want an “official review”. If it was a legitimate touchdown, then so be it. But, if it wasn’t, and we highly suspect there was holding (onto the real birth certificate that is)penalty on the play, then remove the points (read: remove his sorry, lying, criminal ass) and set things right. Is that too much to ask? A legitimate “official review”, that’s all we expect.

[Know et al]

Rahm, is that you?

[RummyChick]

You are missing part of it. ONLY TO LEGITIMATE BIRTHS...of which this was not one as far as we know at this point.

You can find my links about this on a thread with NBC in the title from last week. I am not going to go dig them up again. One is from a UK government site that discusses all of this.

Ann would have had to go to Kenya to have a customary marriage in order for OBama to be a UK citizen if born here..and there later was a law that outlawed such things for births born before 1971 if the party was domiciled in the UK or similiar countries...but I don’t know if they would have taken away his citizenship if he already had it.

[DallasMike]

Remember, he has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to keep it hidden. What was the point of that?

Hundreds of thousands of OUR tax dollars. What's that to him?

I do care. I care a lot. I just happen to remember how the Dems and the media turned around American opinion against Clinton during the Lewinsky episode. I see it happening all over with this.

Obama's numbers are tanking. His policies are unpopular. Use what we know about him, not what we don't know.

[freekitty]

Yeah, and why back in 2000 did Barney Fwank try to get a bill passed to get rid of natural born citizen and why is Congress now trying to pass a fraudulent resolution to make Obama a natural born citizen without any evidence of proof?

It’s a little to scummy for me.

[RummyChick]

A nurse did come forward. The supposed Doctor ..whose name I can’t remember..is dead.

Wouldn’t it be funny if his birth certificate says he was born at home..which I suspect it does...and that story turned out to be a lie.

[MHGinTN]

So Dan Rather is now working for the Advertiser?

[dennisw]

This skunk has just proven that Obama’s long form birth certificate exists. She says it is in the archives. Is this witch messing with it? She is a Democrat hack

At any rate I want to see what she saw
Trust but verify as far as Hawaii and Obama goes

In 2012 we need just one state to demand a birth certificate if you want to be on the ballot

[pissant]

No, for the State of HI, apparently. LOL

[DallasMike]

Only if you are scared of the truth could it be a trap.

We got (part of) the truth about Bill Clinton during the Lewinsky episode. How did that work out for conservatives?

[FreeAtlanta]

With Major Cook's lawsuit, the "good" Governor has been pressured by the seriousness of the Obama fraud to our national security.

Oh what a tangled web they have weaved.