Ann Coulter Says Obama's Birth Certificate "Not an Issue"; Calls Proponents "Cranks" - Video 7/25/09

Freedom's Lighthouse ^ | July 26, 2009 | BrianinMO

[Federalist Patriot]

Here is video of Ann Coulter on with Geraldo Rivera last night saying that President Obama's Birth Certificate is "not an issue," and that it is just being pushed by a "few cranks" out there. Coulter blamed the Mainstream Media's lack of in-depth reporting on Obama for the rise of those who believe there has been a conspiracy to keep the truth from the American people on the issue of Obama's birth.

Geraldo criticized Lou Dobbs as being a "dope" for talking about the issue, and for his opposition to illegal immigration. Coulter disagreed with Geraldo about Lou Dobbs, but said he is wrong on the birth certificate issue. Mike Huckabee chimed in that Hillary Clinton would have used the issue against Obama in the primaries if there had been anything to the story. . . . . . (Watch Video)

[deks]

No, I didn’t say it was true. I actually said “If it had three official seals on it, it would not be the birth certificate”. It is obviously a photoshopped fake... official documents don’t have 3 seals in a row...I’m glad you know that.

Just because Factcheck’s photograph appeared on the internet one day does not proove that it is something issued by Hawaii... it could very well be a forgery like Dan Rather’s phony document.

[Darkwolf377]

What the hell kind of conservative are you?

The sure sign of a Birther--someone disagrees with their conspiracy theories, and it's "You're not a conservative!"

Watch out for the black helicopters.

[afnamvet]

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[fr_freak]

The sure sign of a Birther--someone disagrees with their conspiracy theories, and it's "You're not a conservative!"

Disagreement is one thing, but that's not what you are doing. Disagreement would involve a debate on the salient points. What you're doing is insulting your fellow conservatives, assuming you are one, in the most condescending way possible, which is to attempt to marginalize them by labeling them as "Truthers" in the same category of people who think 9/11 was an inside job. That is not disagreement; that is wholesale disrespect toward a lot of good people who just want to see that the Constitution is followed.

What you remind me of is those weak-kneed "conservatives" who are scared to be actual conservatives because that might bring disapproval from the Left. So those kind call themselves things like "compassionate conservatives" so that they can differentiate themselves from those mean old regular conservatives. People like that don't have the guts or the determination to take their beliefs to the full measure, so they take them as far as they can without attracting the ire of their opponents, then stop and hope nobody notices them. They become afraid if any other conservatives try to take things even farther, because then there might be a fight, or even *gasp* some name-calling which might spill onto themselves.

Additionally, equating the desire to see the birth certificate to the 9/11 truthers is highly illogical and is, at best, a ridiculous strawman. Even if you had a genuine intellectual disagreement with the premise, rather than just lacking ideological guts, your approach isn't even worthy of a junior high school debate.

[Darkwolf377]

What you're doing is insulting your fellow conservatives, assuming you are one

Thanks for repeatedly making my point for me.

[fr_freak]

Thanks for repeatedly making my point for me.

You'll see whatever you want to see in these comments. Other, more reasonable people, will understand the real point.

[Darkwolf377]

What you remind me of is those weak-kneed "conservatives" who are scared to be actual conservatives because that might bring disapproval from the Left. So those kind call themselves things like "compassionate conservatives"

You don't have any actual facts to support attacking me for this, so you say 'You remind me of...' and go from there.

That's the Birther logic right there--no facts, but who cares? You FEEEEL like you need to attack, so...you do.

[fr_freak]

You don't have any actual facts to support attacking me for this, so you say 'You remind me of...' and go from there.

I don't have any actual facts? You mean besides the fact that you called people, who want to see verification of Obama's eligibility to the highest office, "our own Truthers"? Maybe I misunderstood. Maybe, when you said "Truthers", you actually meant it as a compliment. Maybe you didn't mean to equate those who want to see the birth certificate with those who think George W Bush blew up the WTC. Is that what you're saying?

[Darkwolf377]

I don't have any actual facts? You mean besides the fact that you called people, who want to see verification of Obama's eligibility to the highest office, "our own Truthers"?

Uh, that was in response to your insinuation that I was a "compassionate conservative".

As I've stated--and as you've proven once again---when the facts don't fit your needs, you just swing away with emotion. In this case, you didn't like where my comment put you, so you reached for something having nothing to do with THE FACTS we were discussing.

Each of your replies so far has only fixed you more firmly as one of those folks who is helping damage conservatism at a time where we are poised to recapture power--not as RINOs or those giving lipservice to conservative ideals, but as conservatives.

We have the issues on our side. We don't have to try to be "compassionate"--we need only be conservatives, and say to the country "We warned you about Obama and liberalism, we warned you about when Bush tried to appeal to "the middle" and got slapped for it. How about giving conservative ideals a second look, and vote for people who will actually govern as conservatives?" We could win resounding and LASTING victories by showing people real, hardcore conservatism is the way to go.

And they look over and see this kind of thing, and the MSM will reinforce the idea that we're actually a bunch of emotional wackos who are just full of hate and are reaching for tabloid-level crap to smear the first African-American president with.

Which is why I suspect the Birthers...well, why bother saying it? It's pretty obvious.

[battletank]

It’s common knowledge around here and has been spoken of repeatedly for quite some time. I’m not going to do your research. It’s all here if you just look.

[fr_freak]

"I don't have any actual facts? You mean besides the fact that you called people, who want to see verification of Obama's eligibility to the highest office, "our own Truthers"?"

Uh, that was in response to your insinuation that I was a "compassionate conservative".

This is the kind of thing that makes having a real discussion with some people very difficult. For example, your comparison of birth certificate people to "Truthers" occurred in your post #130, long before I even got into the discussion. In fact, you and I got into this discussion when I became offended by reading your post #130. Now you are saying that #130 was in response to me? How can we possibly have a rational discussion, if you can't even keep events straight that occurred within the last hour or two?

You keep going on about "facts", when my only point to you in this thread is that you have no business comparing rational conservatives to 9/11 Truthers, which you did, in post #130. I don't need to prove Obama is Kenyan or Martian or anything else to make the point that you are out of line. Does that simplify things enough for you?

Lastly, I would very much like for people to stop giving a damn what the MSM is going to say about this, that or the other thing. I can tell you right now what they are going to say every time: WHATEVER LIE BENEFITS THE LEFT. If you are going to live your life bending over backwards to appease them, that is your choice, but that is not a winning strategy. Let those who are willing to take the heat worry about the MSM's response.

[WOSG]

So if you get 100 people to keep saying the same unproven non-verified claim, suddenly you get ‘common knowledge’? Sounds more like lemming-ism to me.

You have a 47 year old written record vs some neighbors who ‘dont remember’ something happening 47 years ago. Well. Maybe they just forgot.

[WOSG]

“That is NOT an official birth certificate from Hawaii in 1963.”

It’s not. It’s the official ‘Certificate of Live Birth’ you get when you request your birth records from the State of Hawaii. Anoyone requesting birth records will get the same form:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_2.jpg

It’s as useful for birth verification as the original, as it is a document stating Obama’s birth record on file w/ State of Hawaii. It is good enough for passports and driver’s licenses. Unless a massive and public forgery was committed to produce this COLB (which I understand is one birther claim - I dont agree with it), it means that Obama was born where and when he said he was: On Aug 4, 1961 in Honolulu.

“You can find a real one on worldnetdaily. If that thing is the real McCoy, what is Gov. Linda Lingle sealing”
She is sealing nothing. This press release made clear that Obama’s records are being treated no differently than other records wrt access by others.
http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html
... “Fukino said that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama’s certificate be handled differently from any other.”

” and why, and why are his college records under lock and key?”
Obama is a mediocrity. It’s likely he had lousy grades. that has nothing to do with when he was born, which was in Honolulu.

” And which hospital and what doctor delivered him?”
Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children was his reported hospital of birth.

[garjog]

Those of you who doubt O’s birth status, help me here.

When a missionary has a kid overseas, the kid is a natural born American because his or her mother is a American citizen.

O’s mom was an American. So, even if he was born in Africa, he is still a natural born American (born of an American citizen). That is the legal definition according to my lawyer (wife).

[dervish]

Fine. Let Anne Coulter devote her considerable talent to the many other ways Obama is killing our Constitution.

My only problem with Anne is - WHY does she appear on that moron Geraldo Riveras’s show? She should take a lesson from Michelle Malkin.

[alstewartfan]

To my nose, the dead rat smell is acrid. WOSG, I'm not living in the Twilight Zone here; I heard during the campaign that Lingle sealed it, many times. According to Joe Farah, during the 60’s you could obtain the plain Hawaiian certificate of live birth *even if you were not born in Hawaii*. Maybe you are untroubled by the fact that no hospital or doctor claims Obama as a newborn in 1963, or that his grandmother HAS attested to being there in KENYA when ol’ Barry was born, but I am.
I do agree that Obama! is a mediocrity of an intellect, but he IS a first-rate, hard-core unrelenting Marxist bent on our destruction.

[alstewartfan]

The Kapi’Olani Hospital is running for the tall grass now that questions are being asked. Bob

[dinoparty]

Do you have a link? If what you say is true, then we all shut up about this stupid issue and address more relevant ones, before its too late. I also note that not one reply to your post has included an adequate rebuttal of your point that its ludicrous to think that parents would fake a birth announcement so that their son could be President in 47 years.

[Crazieman]

[MHGinTN]

And where are the Nordyke twins in that supposed health department list? They were born within hours after Barry suppoedly was born in the same hospital, yet they are mysteriously not in the microfiche edition. And why the erroneous address for the Obamas, a place where neighbors are on record as saying they never saw such people there. And why is it that a completely different family occupied that address, with thre young kids? ... If you think that piece of microfiched foolery is proof of the authenticity of the originally fraudulent Internet CoLB, well, you’re living up to your handle, sparky.