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To: DvdMom

My first reaction, is that it lends itself to the conclusion that this may be man made.

That spreadsheet you just linked me to shows an awful lot of people who had underlying conditions. I don’t have the time now, but I’ll come back after manipulating that data a bit.

When you mentioned the deaths to people mostly ever 85 or under 2, I have to look back on your declaration yesterday that only 50 children a year between the ages of zero and 17 die from influenza each year. I didn’t agree with that then, and I still don’t.


1,720 posted on 10/02/2009 4:41:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: DoughtyOne

Post 1546 with links showed that alot of children had no pre- exisiting conditions .

There was a 2nd grader who died from the H1N1 with no conditions reported recently too...


1,722 posted on 10/02/2009 4:46:00 PM PDT by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: DoughtyOne

I didn’t declare that 50 kids died that is what the CDC website report said.


1,723 posted on 10/02/2009 4:48:49 PM PDT by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: DoughtyOne

This is found on the CDC website .

Why do you think they have it on there ????

This is death rates, just for children who died from the flu, not for adults:

During the 2003-04 season, 153 flu-associated deaths in children were reported to CDC. (This data was collected by CDC.)
During the 2004-05 season, 47 deaths in children were reported to CDC. (This is the first year that influenza mortality in children became a nationally reportable condition.)
During the 2005-06 season, 46 deaths in children were reported to CDC.
During the 2006-07 season, 76 deaths in children were reported to CDC.
As of June 14, 2008, 83 deaths in children occurring during the 2007-08 season have been reported to CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/season.htm

Flu Deaths in Children
Flu-associated deaths in children (defined as persons aged 18 years and younger) first became a nationally notifiable condition during the 2004-05 flu season and are reported through the National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System (NNDSS). The number of flu-associated deaths among children reported during the 2007-08 flu season can be found at http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/fluactivity.htm.

How many children have died from flu-associated complications during previous flu seasons?
During the 2003-04 season, 153 flu-associated deaths in children were reported to CDC. (This data was collected by CDC.)
During the 2004-05 season, 47 deaths in children were reported to CDC. (This is the first year that influenza mortality in children became a nationally reportable condition.)
During the 2005-06 season, 46 deaths in children were reported to CDC.
During the 2006-07 season, 76 deaths in children were reported to CDC.
As of June 14, 2008, 83 deaths in children occurring during the 2007-08 season have been reported to CDC.
(Note: The counts above are of flu-associated deaths among children according to the flu season the deaths occur, not when they are reported to CDC.)


1,724 posted on 10/02/2009 4:51:07 PM PDT by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: DoughtyOne; WestCoastGal; azishot; Palladin

(((( Her son LaTowyn was a healthy, strong teenage boy. Then suddenly on Tuesday, the day before his 16th birthday, he complained of flu-like symptoms.

By Wednesday his body started shutting down.” And everything just got worse. His kidneys shut down. And then his heart stopped pumping on its own.” Just 48 hours after her son first became ill, he died. ))))))

Teen’s mother speaks out after son dies of suspected H1N1 virus
Last Update: 9:16 pm

A 16-year old East Central student has passed away from Influenza Type A. The health department suspects it may be Tulsa County’s first deadly case of the H1N1 virus, also known as the Swine Flu.

Over the course of just two days, LaTowyn Gaston went from being a healthy teenager to fighting for his life. He passed away Thursday night in the ICU at St. Francis Hospital.

His mother hopes her story may help other families, by making them aware of just how dangerous this virus can be.

“He was like my little guardian angel. He would look out for me,” says Dwana Gaston.

Her son LaTowyn was a healthy, strong teenage boy. Then suddenly on Tuesday, the day before his 16th birthday, he complained of flu-like symptoms.

By Wednesday his body started shutting down.” And everything just got worse. His kidneys shut down. And then his heart stopped pumping on its own.” Just 48 hours after her son first became ill, he died.

While more lab tests will need to be done to confirm that LaTowyn died of the H1N1 strain, health officials suspect he is the second Oklahoma child to die from the virus.

Dwana urges parents to seek medical attention for their children immediately if they show flu-like symptoms, and make sure they don’t expose other kids to the virus by allowing them to go to school. “If your child is sick, don’t send them to school because you can infect other kids. And other kids may not be able to take the flu. Some kids can and some kids can’t.”

Gaston wants kids to wash their hands often and carry hand sanitizer, so they can’t catch or spread the virus. She says the more people who know how dangerous the H1N1 virus can be, the more lives her son’s story may save. “If there’s two people that listen, that’s two people may not have to go through what I am going through.”

Gaston was honored with a moment of silence at Friday’s night East Central football game.

Funeral services will be held next Friday at the Biglow Funeral Home at 1414 N. Norfolk Avenue at 11am.

Next week, 34,000 doses of the H1N1 flu vaccine should arrive at the Tulsa Health Department. More doses will follow over the next few months.

http://www.kjrh.com/news/local/story/Teens-mother-speaks-out-after-son-dies-of/6bQV_8KVeEmN1kzXEk8t9Q.cspx


1,744 posted on 10/02/2009 8:34:40 PM PDT by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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