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To: DoughtyOne

My thoughts are that

I personally don’t know the real death count at all .

I was bothered by the 36,000 mantra number repeated year after year etc..

I read articles saying many different things & numbers .

What I do know is that the regular flu usually kills people over 85 or children younger then 2 from what I’ve read in articles.

The swineflu is killing more children , young adults then

the regular flu.

I have read personal reports of people getting the swineflu more then once :(

I’ve read an article where a healthy college student who took Tamiflu the very next day of having flu symptoms ended up dead .

I have read reports that the H1N1 / swineflu is a man- made virus .

I have read reports that the H1N1 / Swineflu happened from nature .

I read reports that the H1N1 vaccine would be great .

I read reports that the H1N1 vaccine will kill you .

I just like to post as much up too date information on the swineflu that I can .


1,645 posted on 10/01/2009 8:37:41 PM PDT by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: DvdMom

Thank you DvdMom.

I watched for 26 years as our hospital count went up from 25 to 50 to 100 or more patients for months at a time as a result of the yearly influenza. We lost people. To say that we only lost 1, and not every hospital even lost one, is a very strange unbelievable concept to me.

I know you are posting factoids from the CDC, but those factoids are sometimes not the only info.

While your comments on what constitutes a verified influenza death is certainly rational, coming to the conclusion that only a thousand or so people die from influenza each year just doesn’t compute having seen what I have.

The CDC admits they don’t actually prove each case, since not all hospitals and other long term car facilities report. They have to quantify the count some way, and I would think that they go through a logical process that takes a look at all deaths from related respiratory problems, eliminates some of them, and extrapolates projections based on some mode of reasoning.

Other than forcing all hospitals to document and sample each patient at a cost of tens of millions, this is what they’ve come up with.

I don’t have any reason to think the CDC is jobbing us on this. The figures may not be spot on, but what I’ve observed makes me think their numbers aren’t totally dismissible either.

You take care.

You’re going to a lot of trouble to post the information, and I shouldn’t totally dismiss your efforts. I apologize for being less than charitable at times.

D1


1,646 posted on 10/01/2009 10:38:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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Canadian pharma seeks H1N1 flu victims for research
http://www.canada.com/health/Canadian+pharma+seeks+H1N1+victims+research/2051551/story.html

A Canadian pharmaceutical company believes a treatment for the H1N1 flu could be hiding in the arteries of people who caught the bug and recovered.


1,649 posted on 10/02/2009 5:08:34 AM PDT by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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