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Trooper killed, another wounded, rescuing boy from abduction (PA State Trooper)
The Times-Tribune (Scranton PA) ^ | 6/8/09 | CHARLES SCHILLINGER AND ERIN l. NISSLEY

Posted on 06/08/2009 7:11:33 PM PDT by Born Conservative

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RIP, Trooper Miller.
1 posted on 06/08/2009 7:11:34 PM PDT by Born Conservative
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Ping


2 posted on 06/08/2009 7:12:01 PM PDT by Born Conservative (Bohicaville: http://bohicaville.wordpress.com/)
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This one is tragic all the way around.


3 posted on 06/08/2009 7:13:57 PM PDT by misterrob (A society that burdens future generations with debt can not be considered moral or just)
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Trooper Joshua Miller.

Fidelis ad mortem


4 posted on 06/08/2009 7:15:58 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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The chase began in Northampton County, after Mr. Autenrieth kidnapped his 9-year-old son at gunpoint. . . . Pennsylvania State Police Commissioner Frank E. Pawlowski said police are still attempting to determine whether the troopers knew Mr. Autenrieth was armed.

I'm puzzled by this statement from the Police Commissioner. It's clear from the story that the initial contact to police would have included the information that the father who abducted the boy was armed. If that information wasn't communicated to the officers who were dispatched to chase the abductor's vehicle, then somebody dropped the ball in a huge way, probably costing this officer his life.

5 posted on 06/08/2009 7:22:28 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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If you read some of the comments at the link, you’ll see mention of an incident 11 days ago in Scranton, when a mentally ill woman who used to be in the Air Force, was shot and killed by 4 local police officers. There have been NO details, and many in the area believe there is a cover up.

http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/news/four_scranton_cops_placed_on_paid_leave_pending_fatal_shooting_investigation


6 posted on 06/08/2009 7:25:07 PM PDT by Born Conservative (Bohicaville: http://bohicaville.wordpress.com/)
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My father in law is a retired State Trooper. They really do a very dangerous job. Any routine traffic stop could result in a dangerous situation like this one. My father in law made it to retirement without a shooting incident. The Troopers I know well, 3 who are all retired, are salt of the earth guys. Hearts of gold all of ‘em.

Rest in Peace Trooper Miller. He was one of the good guys.


7 posted on 06/08/2009 7:27:21 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force." George Washington)
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Just emailed an old Marine buddy who is a PA State Trooper to tell him I’m praying for him.


8 posted on 06/08/2009 8:04:35 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (Unions are great, providing you are too weak or too stupid to stay employed by your own merit.)
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The whole business is very sad. I can’t help wondering whether there couldn’t have been some other way to handle it, that didn’t take such a huge risk of killing the kid, and ended up with a dead police officer and a dead father.

The court gave custody to the mother, then the father, then the mother. Obviously this must have been a real tangle.

Maybe it was the only thing to do, but sad that it ended as it did.


9 posted on 06/08/2009 8:05:10 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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RIP.


10 posted on 06/08/2009 8:25:04 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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The Pennsylvania State Police Call to Honor; recited at all Academy Graduations and Promotion Ceremonies:

"I am a Pennsylvania State Trooper, A Soldier of the Law. To me is entrusted the Honor of the Force. I must serve honestly, faithfully, and, if need be, lay down my life as others have done before me, rather than swerve from the path of duty. It is my duty to obey the law and enforce it without any consideration of class, color, creed, or condition. It is also my duty to be of service to anyone who may be in danger or distress, and at all times so conduct myself that the Honor of the Force may be upheld."

11 posted on 06/08/2009 8:48:35 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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Thanks for posting the Call to Honor. I hesitate to tell my father in law of this sad loss of a Trooper. He probably has heard already from his fellow Troopers.


12 posted on 06/08/2009 9:11:20 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force." George Washington)
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13 posted on 06/08/2009 9:11:25 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Better to convert enemies to allies than to destroy them)
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Very sad story but I am confused about something - the protective order of abuse. She claimed he was abusive, then he claimed she was, then she claimed he was..... does that sound right? Does the court often switch sides like that so quickly?


14 posted on 06/09/2009 6:31:37 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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There was a case in Delaware County where that happened. I think the problem comes down to competency among judges.


15 posted on 06/09/2009 8:54:51 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Better to convert enemies to allies than to destroy them)
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I am sorry I haven’t been paying attention to the news recently. I was wondering why the flags were at half staff around here.


16 posted on 06/10/2009 3:59:20 AM PDT by merry10
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that didn’t take such a huge risk of killing the kid

Oh, you know, eating donuts and setting up speed traps gets old.

17 posted on 06/10/2009 4:01:44 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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Obviously this must have been a real tangle.

Right. Perhaps the cops didn't know this when they decided to chase him down. My Monday Quarterback thought: this isn't like an abduction by a stranger. It was the kids dad...they knew how to get him. Just go after him later...rather than go speeding around town and ramming him.

18 posted on 06/10/2009 4:09:45 AM PDT by TankerKC (01/20/09 = 09/10/01)
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“The whole business is very sad. I can’t help wondering whether there couldn’t have been some other way to handle it, that didn’t take such a huge risk of killing the kid, and ended up with a dead police officer and a dead father.”
I can't recall the name of the dirtbag right off hand but they are still looking for the bodies of the children after he kidnapped them and went on a cross country drive. Anyone unhinged enough to kidnap at gunpoint is unpredictable and extremely dangerous. It would be nice to think he could be reasoned with or taken out by a sniper, but he dictated events and the officers made a judgment call. I have to commend them on their heroism and my meager condolences on their loss.
19 posted on 06/10/2009 4:18:23 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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Well, I’m not saying there were any easy choices. And I’m NOT blaming the cop who was killed. He was following orders and doing his job.

There does seem to have been some confusion at headquarters. They knew the father had a weapon, but evidently they didn’t tell the cops they sent after him about it.

I can’t say they did the wrong thing; I just feel sorry that things didn’t turn out differently. The father was crazy enough to take a gun, grab his kid, and shoot a cop, but that was after he was backed into a corner. What about the mother? Was she possibly the real source of the trouble between them? Why did the judge take custody from her at one point, which is unusual now, when divorce judges usually favor the mother? We aren’t told enough to know, but it’s too bad that two people are dead, and the child MAY have been left with nothing but a crazy mother.


20 posted on 06/10/2009 8:26:13 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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