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Cheney Supports Gay Marriage
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Posted on 06/01/2009 1:08:50 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: fish hawk

RE :”I’ve kicked Cheney out of my party. It’s down to just me and Rush now. Maybe Marco Rubio from Florida too. “

You have ? I think he is spokesman for it still. It’s a bad sign that there is none new to step up. One thing about Obama’s appeal, he was new. Kerry couldnt have won. Cheney couldnt get elected dogcatcher but he is the party spokesman. You need new conservatives that can repudiate everything done in DC, meaning they were against TARP for one.


241 posted on 06/02/2009 10:18:36 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: jdub

Ever notice how those who’re allergic to religion can’t resist bringing it up?


242 posted on 06/02/2009 10:47:39 AM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: Romulus

actually, no.


243 posted on 06/02/2009 10:50:39 AM PDT by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: sickoflibs

Cheney is awesome.


244 posted on 06/02/2009 11:15:57 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: jdub

Thank you for your response. My understanding is that civil unions allow exactly what you said. On July 1, 2000, civil unions became law in the state of Vermont. A partil quote of a definition of civil unions is “....a comprehensive legal status parrallel to civil marraige for all purposes under Vermont state law.”

Imitially I supported civil unions, probably for the same reasons you mentioned. Unfortunately homosexual activists view civil union as nothing more than an incremental step toward their objective. That objective is same sex marraige.

They intend to force society to accept homosexual marraige as being as normal as hetero-sexual marraige. There are some homosexuals who do not want same sex marraige. They get no recognition from the media and certainly none from the homosexual political lobby.

The fact is that homosexuality is not normal and they know it. That knowledge is frustrating and contributes to the rage you see in the recent attacks by homosexuals in California over Prop.8. They know that the overwhelming number of people in America oppose same sex marraige. They are counting on the Judiciary to force that unnatural aggangement into the law of the land.

Homosexual marraige under law will be just another sign of the degradation of our society. I hope that it never becomes legal in America.


245 posted on 06/02/2009 11:39:48 AM PDT by SkipW
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To: Recovering_Democrat

He has his good points. I know it’s fun to watch him beat up on Obama since no one elected seems to be able to/


246 posted on 06/02/2009 12:46:51 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: Tublecane
If I hate what our country has become, hate that it has betrayed its founding principles (or hate that it has betrayed principles it never historically had, but are yet legitimate), I can damn the law, say it is not good. But I’d be more honest, I’d like to think, than Lincoln and Douglas, two politicians for pete’s sake, who were speaking out one side of their mouths.

your post, and the part I quoted in particular, might be the most brilliant post I've ever seen on this website. Bravo!
247 posted on 06/02/2009 1:33:44 PM PDT by theknuckler_33
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To: spald

LOL. One reason people agree with Cheney is that they dare not do otherwise.


248 posted on 06/02/2009 1:42:12 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: MadIsh32

“So in your world, should older couples who cannot procreate be banned from marriage?”

Don’t be so glib. Governments are set up to deal with general problems. Men and women are the ones that reproduce, so those are the couples that are treated as a special class. If not all men and women reproduce, well, at least we tried.

To be frank, marriage does not exist for childless couples. They might as well have private commitments, the same as gays. It’s just too complicated to be worth it to root them out of the system. If they’re physically able but choose not to, they could change their minds at some point. If they’re physically unable, they could still adopt. Gay people can adopt, too. But that’s another thing most people aren’t in a hurry to promote.

The institution of marriage isn’t about individuals, who are free to marry and divorce, reproduce or not reproduce, at will. It’s about the class of people known as “breeders,” whether or not individual members of that class actually breed. What matters is that most, or almost all, people marry in order to start a family. And that’s the sort of thing that religion, society, governments, tradition, etc. have decided is important to promote.


249 posted on 06/02/2009 4:32:34 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: jdub

“Other than that, the fact that their behavior gives me the creeps doesnt seem suficient to deny them rights that others enjoy.”

What “rights” are these of which you speak?


250 posted on 06/02/2009 4:35:46 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: theknuckler_33

Thanks.

I was beginning to wonder if I had gone too far, ‘cause it seemed like a small point (which grew into a bigger point), and I love the language of the Declaration as much as anyone. But this “organic law” stuff creeps me out for reasons I can’t fully articulate.


251 posted on 06/02/2009 4:39:30 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: theknuckler_33

Wait, I think I can put my finger on it. Reminds me of Plato’s “noble lies,” if you know what I’m talking about.


252 posted on 06/02/2009 4:41:23 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Sub-Driver

The Government should support what is good. According to God, Homosexuality is bad. The Government should not support what is bad.

Leviticus 18:22: “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.”

we don’t have leaders in the GOP with enough courage to quote the BIBLE.


253 posted on 06/02/2009 10:45:22 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Jewbacca

In the Mosaic Law if you were married, but your brother died and his wife had no offspring yet, you were comanded to marry your sister in law and bring forth children in your brother’s name. Also, if you were married, and you were caught cheating with an unmarried woman, you had to take her as an additional wife and you were not allowed to divorce her.
From my understanding, Jews teach that the 10 Commandments forbid a man from coveting another man’s wife but that an unmarried woman can covet a married man because she has the possibility of marrying him.

In all these cases one has to admit that God endorsed polygamy. Also, when Nathan condemned David for sending a man to his death so he could gain his wife he told David that God (yes, God) had blessed David with 6 wives but that David had done wrong in stealing another man’s wife and causing him harm.


254 posted on 06/02/2009 11:42:22 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Tublecane

the rights under federal and state estate planning law.


255 posted on 06/03/2009 6:14:17 AM PDT by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: Bushwacker777

If you googled as requested, the teachings of the Rabbi on this issue are very clear.


256 posted on 06/03/2009 7:12:12 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: jdub

“the rights under federal and state estate planning law”

Don’t gays have the same rights of every other non-married person as regards their estate? What gives them the “right” to have the same privileges as marrieds?


257 posted on 06/03/2009 4:20:56 PM PDT by Tublecane
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