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It's Jesus or Dan Brown
St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | 05/20/2009 | Ross Douthat

Posted on 05/21/2009 6:47:26 AM PDT by rhema

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1 posted on 05/21/2009 6:47:28 AM PDT by rhema
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To: Caleb1411; Salvation; narses
The polls that show more Americans abandoning organized religion don't suggest a dramatic uptick in atheism: They reveal the growth of do-it-yourself spirituality, with traditional religion's dogmas and moral requirements shorn away. The same trend is at work within organized faiths as well, where both liberal and conservative believers often encounter a God who's too busy validating their particular version of the American Dream to raise a peep about, say, how much money they're making or how many times they've been married.

These are Dan Brown's kind of readers. Piggybacking on the fascination with lost gospels and alternative Christianities, he serves up a Jesus who's a thoroughly modern sort of messiah — sexy, worldly and Goddess-worshiping, with a wife and kids, a house in the Galilean suburbs, and no delusions about his own divinity.

2 posted on 05/21/2009 6:48:45 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema

“’Angels and Demons,’ is cleaning up at the box office this week. The sequel to ‘The Da Vinci Code,’ due out in November”

It came out in May - is this a bad cut and paste by the writer?


3 posted on 05/21/2009 6:49:51 AM PDT by edcoil (IF CA rolls pollution standards back to 1990 levels, lets roll CA spending back as well.)
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To: rhema

It’s also “Jesus or Liberalism” -

“Liberal Christian” is an oxymoron, because everything about liberalism is the antithesis of the Word of God.


4 posted on 05/21/2009 6:51:23 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: rhema
he serves up a Jesus who's a thoroughly modern sort of messiah — sexy, worldly and Goddess-worshiping, with a wife and kids, a house in the Galilean suburbs, and no delusions about his own divinity.


5 posted on 05/21/2009 6:51:32 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: rhema

I’ve spoken with people, mostly liberals btw, who thought “The DaVinci Code” was real.

My God, it says right on the cover that it’s a NOVEL.

I read other book and found it very entertaining, but it is dazzling inaccurate(done, obviously, to enhance the plot).

But it is easy to understand how such a book and a movie can generate so much interest in America - as we turn more and more secular, and make up religion as we go along.

What a shame that many of us believe that we can figure out God. It is one of the great canards of our day.


6 posted on 05/21/2009 6:54:29 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Do your duty in all things." Robert E. Lee)
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To: rhema

>> You can have Jesus or Dan Brown. But you can’t have both.

Fine! I’ll take Jesus.

From Hebrews 10:

“28He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. “

Good luck with that, Mr. Brown. I hope for the best for you, and I certainly have my own problems with obeying God. But I’d rather not be in your shoes come judgment day.


7 posted on 05/21/2009 6:59:20 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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8 posted on 05/21/2009 7:00:44 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: rhema

Years ago I read “Holy Blood, Holy Grail”, on which Brown’s books are based. It was a compelling read that left me with real concerns about my faith. I realized what the book was doing to me one day and I burned it.


9 posted on 05/21/2009 7:01:14 AM PDT by coloradomomba (BO stinks!)
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To: rhema; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; ...
Re: It's Jesus or Dan Brown

No, it is all up to The Øbamanation's nominee... Photobucket for Pope as soon as his religious stimulus package is passed!

10 posted on 05/21/2009 7:02:12 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: RexBeach; BibChr
Dan Brown appeals to the do-it-yourselfers who never tire of reading fantasy-filled fiction in the tendentions How to Make Your Very Own Jesus genre.
11 posted on 05/21/2009 7:04:43 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema

“tendentions” = tendentious


12 posted on 05/21/2009 7:05:39 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema
The Vatican has enough scandals in its history that it doesn't need to get its panties in a wad about a totally fictitious plot about an evil priest who wants to be pope and plots to kill the 4 highest Cardinal contenders to the throne.

Both the book and the movie were entertaining, but not necessarily heretical. Brown can spin a good yarn, but people need to be able to discern truth from fiction.

13 posted on 05/21/2009 7:08:04 AM PDT by SC DOC
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I saw the first movie hoping to see something that would challenge me to think. I was sadly disappointed. Not only was the plot thin but the movie never reached any good level of thrills or cinematic prowess. It was largely a waste of my time and energy. I can’t imagine the new movie or book will be any better.

Most people don’t believe Dan Brown’s crap because they are stupid and uninformed - they believe it because they want it to be true!

Mel


14 posted on 05/21/2009 7:08:15 AM PDT by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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Well, no going to the theatre for this one..., I’ll just download and watch. I don’t want to pay anyone for garbage.


15 posted on 05/21/2009 7:09:38 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: RexBeach
I’ve spoken with people, mostly liberals btw, who thought “The DaVinci Code” was real.

My God, it says right on the cover that it’s a NOVEL.

Even though those libs were idiots, Brown fueled that fire by insisting the certain things were "facts" at the start of the novel (but those facts were really hoaxes and BS).

I remember reading a Robert Ludlum novel in the 70s called The Gemini Contenders. Like, The Da Vinci Code, it involved a secret, that, if revealed, "would shake the foundations of Christianity". The book was a bestseller, like all Ludlum's novels. But it was not a monster hit like Brown's. Ludlum never went on TV claiming that his background info was "real". He just used some "secret documents" as a plot device.

I don't mind people idiots believing in brown's BS as long as they are not members of any serious Bible believing church.

16 posted on 05/21/2009 7:13:21 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: rhema

So........

what’s the difference between “Angels and Demons” and “The Shack”?

None?


17 posted on 05/21/2009 7:35:31 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: edcoil

Angels and Demons is a prequel. A sequel to the DaVinci Code book is being released in November, just in time to give to all your anti-Christian friends for Festivus.


18 posted on 05/21/2009 7:52:01 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: fishtank

I enjoyed them both. But then again, I know they are fiction.

“The Shack” reminded me of “The Lovely Bones” another fictional novel that I enjoyed. They resonated with me because I am a parent, not because of any religious connection. The thought that a lost loved one (particularly a child) could still be “near” is comforting.

Those two plus the Brown books are all for entertainment. Not great works of art or religious treatises, but pulp fiction, quick beach reads, alternatives to tv. Brown pulls in lots of imagery from Rome and the Vatican which is interesting to this Catholic gal.

Man, do people get worked up about this stuff!


19 posted on 05/21/2009 7:54:10 AM PDT by YankeeGirl
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Its not really cleaning up at the box office. It came in at $43 million the 1st week which was $30 million less than the Da Vinci code. By contrast star Trek did $75 million in its 1st week.


20 posted on 05/21/2009 8:04:48 AM PDT by WilliamPatrick
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