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To: ansel12; roamer_1
roamer_1 & I had a long discussion about this a last week.

There is a big difference between "Libertarian" and "libertarian". It's not wise to confuse the two. The small "l" libertarians are closer to Barry Goldwater than they are to Bob Barr.

1 "Libertarians"- Members of the Libertarian Party that believe in the entire Libertarian platform

2."libertarians" -those who belong to other parties -- Republicans, Constitution Party, etc., or no Party at all -- but who believe that the Constitution is the only authority that government should have.

These two groups should no be confused or interchanged, because they are different.

For example, Big L, Libertarians are mute on the abortion issue, whereas little l libertarians are often pretty vocally anti-abortion.

Libertarians are anti national borders, while libertarians support guarding national borders and our sovereignty far more than mainstream Republicans.

Libertarians are for easy immigration, while libertarians are vocal about controlling immigration and even go as far as saying that "born here" shouldn't automatically grant you citizenship if your parents were here illegally.

Libertarians and libertarians disagree vehemently on some very key issues, and I think that it is therefore unwise to confuse them or interchange them.

I printed this yesterday on another post, but the logo for the California Republican Liberty Caucus best represents the small "libertarian" infusion" that is mentioned in this article


83 posted on 04/30/2009 8:56:50 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

That is gibberish there is the Libertarian party period and this is their position on immigration. It is a tiny party of 226,000 registered members.

Immigration
The Issue: We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new “Berlin Wall” which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. government’s policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.

The Principle: We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age or sexual preference. We oppose government welfare and resettlement payments to non-citizens just as we oppose government welfare payments to all other persons.

Solutions: We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. We strongly oppose all measures that punish employers who hire undocumented workers. Such measures repress free enterprise, harass workers, and systematically discourage employers from hiring Hispanics.

Transitional Action: We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.


101 posted on 04/30/2009 9:17:39 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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