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1 posted on 04/10/2009 10:28:36 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

What about the LOCKBOX!?


2 posted on 04/10/2009 10:31:56 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: NormsRevenge
the system will still manage to provide a slight surplus for federal coffers in fiscal 2009

Oh? Is there a vault? A big room piled high with all that surplus money that we've been collecting over time? Hmmmmmmmmmm?

3 posted on 04/10/2009 10:32:18 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, it really doesn’t matter much if current receipts don’t quite cover the current expenses since we have all those billions locked away in the Social Security Trust Fund, aka the “lockbox”.

(pause for nervous laughter)


4 posted on 04/10/2009 10:33:21 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m not worried about this shortfall. It doesn’t apply to me. I have contributed my share for the last 45 years. I got a statement from the SS Admin detailing how much I have in the fund. This is someone else’s problem. //sarcasm off//


5 posted on 04/10/2009 10:36:12 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: NormsRevenge

Silly marxists - there is no SS surplus, never has been. There isn’t even any money anywhere in SS. There are not even accounts for each person. SS makes Madoff look like a piker. It’s the biggest ponzi scheme in the entire history of Earth. They should put a picture of the SS emblem in the dictionary next to Ponzi.


6 posted on 04/10/2009 10:36:17 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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RE :”Payroll tax receipts generally hold up much better in recessions than income taxes, but job losses have been so severe that the CBO expects them to decline slightly from 2008, while benefits rise almost 9% because of cost-of-living adjustments and the beginnings of the baby boomer retirement wave. (See five reasons for economic optimism.)

The faster this welfare program goes broke the better. Like Medicare democrats only want a token of payroll taxes (wrt handouts) to make the recipients think they earned it. They really want the rich to support the poor, with the middle class addicted.

8 posted on 04/10/2009 10:42:12 AM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: NormsRevenge

This is massive (massively bad) financial news.

I’m amazed it is getting such quite coverage.


9 posted on 04/10/2009 10:45:34 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Security sucks. I want my freedom back.)
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To: NormsRevenge

These people are so dumb thinking that there is a SS surplus. So dumb...


13 posted on 04/10/2009 10:50:50 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: NormsRevenge

The Government Has Two Options:

1. Cut Benefits
2. Increase Taxes

Expect both options to be exercised frequently.

My wife and I don’t plan on SS income for our retirement. It will be like winning the lottery if we get any...


16 posted on 04/10/2009 11:08:11 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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A bunch of IOUs written from one arm of the government - the Treasury, to another arm of the government - Social Security trust fund, DO NOT A SURPLUS MAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!

The “surplus” in the Social Security Trust fund is nothing other than a promise we made to ourselves (whenever we collected more social security payroll taxes than we needed for paying benefits) to come back and tax ourselves later to pay back the payroll taxes we spent instead of saving and investing the excess we paid in.

The label of the IOUs we gave ourselves as a “surplus” is the biggest political fiction in modern American history.

A PONZI scheme, like Mr. Madoff ran, is when the promise is made that unrealistic earnings can be provided and are in fact only able to be provided as long as enough new investors and/or enough new investment can continually be brought in to pay off the earlier investors.

Social Security has always been a PONZI scheme.

It has always required some combination of legally required additional new classes of contributors or legally mandated higher contribution rates, or both, in order to be solvent for those reaching the age of claiming their due from it.

The financial and demographic math of pretending it is solvent have reached their end, and by 2013 that pretense will be shattered.


18 posted on 04/10/2009 11:20:06 AM PDT by Wuli
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What surplus? It is just a bunch of IOU’s. If there was money in the “surplus bank” how could this surplus be getting smaller unless someone is robbing the bank. And that is what is happening and has been happening for years. The money is “robbed” by Congress (government) to make it appear that the deficit is not as bad as it really is. The only way to replace this “robbed” money is through additional taxes. The shortage then has to be made up by us stupid taxpayers.


20 posted on 04/10/2009 11:36:03 AM PDT by mulligan (A)
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To: NormsRevenge
What surplus???? LOL
21 posted on 04/10/2009 11:38:40 AM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well maybe some of the BAIL OUT money could go to cover the checks for the elderly. They deserve it. Oh h*ll, Obie would not want to do that.


22 posted on 04/10/2009 12:37:47 PM PDT by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: SunkenCiv; BIGLOOK; M. Espinola

no need to worry about 2017 any more


26 posted on 04/10/2009 9:54:59 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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