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How Science Fiction Found Religion
City Journal ^ | Winter 2009 | Benjamin A. Plotinsky

Posted on 03/27/2009 5:38:49 AM PDT by jalisco555

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Although I think the author strains a bit to make his point I still found this interesting.
1 posted on 03/27/2009 5:38:49 AM PDT by jalisco555
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To: KevinDavis

Perhaps your SF ping list might find this interesting.


2 posted on 03/27/2009 5:40:16 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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Science fiction and police fiction (private detective, police procedural, etc.) have always taken religion seriously and explored both religion and ethics in complex and thoughtful ways.


3 posted on 03/27/2009 5:44:12 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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Of course, if sci-fi is drawing on the ‘War on Terror’, it’s still really drawing on religion—however much we try to avert our eyes from the fact by using euphemisms like ‘the War on Terror’, the war between the West and Islam is a religious war.


4 posted on 03/27/2009 5:46:10 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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Star Trek never really took religion seriously. In fact it went almost unmentioned, except for the one episode in TOS set in the Rome like planet. I always thought that Roddenberry believed it was something childish that we’d outgrow. Babylon 5 and Battlestar Galactica on the other hand do take it very seriously, and are better fiction.


5 posted on 03/27/2009 5:47:26 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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This guy doesn’t read. All his examples are TV and movies, whereas if he read, he’d know one of the most compelling supporting examples of his premise is the final Harry Potter novel.


6 posted on 03/27/2009 5:49:28 AM PDT by JenB
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Of course, if sci-fi is drawing on the ‘War on Terror’, it’s still really drawing on religion—however much we try to avert our eyes from the fact by using euphemisms like ‘the War on Terror’, the war between the West and Islam is a religious war.

As is the human-Cylon war on BSG, which draws very much from current events.

7 posted on 03/27/2009 5:50:13 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: JenB
This guy doesn’t read.

Well, he does reference Dune and Stranger in a Strange Land, as well as the final Potter book in the article. But you're right, most of his examples are TV and film.

8 posted on 03/27/2009 5:51:37 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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“Star Trek,” and some earlier pieces, are a sub-trend, as it were, in that way. (By always, I meant “throughout the existence of these genres,” not “every individual piece.”)

The fantasy of a world without religion, money, poverty, ignorance, and so on goes way back ... although it appears that more people believe such a scenario is both possible and desireable than used to.


9 posted on 03/27/2009 5:55:25 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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Oh, wait, he did mention HP too. I just had my eyes glaze over in the middle of his piece because he takes forever to get to his point.


10 posted on 03/27/2009 5:55:57 AM PDT by JenB
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The fantasy of a world without religion, money, poverty, ignorance, and so on goes way back ... although it appears that more people believe such a scenario is both possible and desireable than used to.

No politics in Star Trek either. Just a benevolent UN writ large.

11 posted on 03/27/2009 5:59:25 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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...he takes forever to get to his point.

It's actually easier on the eyes if you read it at the link. I posted the entire piece since people get upset over unnecessary excerpting.

12 posted on 03/27/2009 6:01:18 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: JenB

I like to print long articles out to read, if it looks like they’ll be interesting enough.


13 posted on 03/27/2009 6:11:13 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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Just a benevolent UN writ large

Serious denial of observable reality, even at the time of the original ST.

14 posted on 03/27/2009 6:12:00 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows—has Harry (you guessed it) choosing to die to save the world and then returning to life, after a brief journey to an afterworld resembling (note the place) London’s King’s Cross railway station.

Not flaming you at all, but perhaps you missed this? Or did I misunderstand what you were saying?

15 posted on 03/27/2009 6:13:16 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (The Fairness Doctrine isn't about "Fairness" - it's about Doctrine.)
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To say the least. I really agree with though. SciFi and religon have always intermingled past the fifties anyways (alot of the early works seem to have it less, including Bradbury and Wells [or what I’ve read of them]). Look at Dune, written 60’s, it’s chocked full of religion (not any religion I would like to be part of but still...) It’s one of the best selling (if not the best selling) Science Fiction books. Also B5, X-files, Stargate (good grief the whole premise of the show starts out with re-imaging religions) all have tackled this, them being the three biggest Sci-fis of the last 20 years on TV. Before that with Star Trek, and other shows, I didn’t see it as much (I also wasn’t alive also).


16 posted on 03/27/2009 6:16:44 AM PDT by Toki ("Palin Pingers" Freepmail Liberity Rocks or me to get on the list today!)
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Yeah, missed it. Eyes glazed over, it’s early. I think this article could have used a little editing since it takes four times as long to say what it’s saying as it needs to.


17 posted on 03/27/2009 6:16:59 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB

I think in the future I will excerpt long articles whether or not it’s required.


18 posted on 03/27/2009 6:20:12 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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Apparently, the author had not seen the final episode of Battlestar Galactica. It ended on a very religious note. It implied VERY strongly that the Humans and Cylons ended up where they ended up through divine intervention. It was very powerful for me.


19 posted on 03/27/2009 6:21:19 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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There’s a saying that science fiction is never about the future, it’s always about the present. It simply projects present day concerns into the future. So when religion is high in people’s consciousness many religious stories are written. Likewise, when Wells wrote Science and Progress were practically worshiped as secular religions, so his fiction reflected this.


20 posted on 03/27/2009 6:22:44 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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