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Obama’s Gun Ban List Is Out
Soldier of Fortune ^ | 13 March, 2009 | Alan Korwin

Posted on 03/17/2009 6:42:32 AM PDT by marktwain

Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.

Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.

Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady’s plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states’ rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine,

Sturm Ruger Mini-14,

AR-15,

Bushmaster XM15,

Armalite M15,

AR-10,

Thompson 1927,

Thompson M1;

AK,

AKM,

AKS,

AK-47,

AK-74,

ARM,

MAK90,

NHM 90,

NHM 91,

SA 85,

SA 93,

VEPR;

Olympic Arms PCR;

AR70,

Calico Liberty ,

Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,

Fabrique National FN/FAL,

FN/LAR, or FNC,

Hi-Point20Carbine,

HK-91,

HK-93,

HK-94,

HK-PSG-1,

Thompson 1927 Commando,

Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;

Saiga,

SAR-8,

SAR-4800,

SKS with detachable magazine,

SLG 95,

SLR 95 or 96,

Steyr AU,

Tavor,

Uzi,

Galil and Uzi Sporter,

Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).

Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

Calico M-110,

MAC-10,

MAC-11, or MPA3,

Olympic Arms OA,

TEC-9,

TEC-DC9,

TEC-22 Scorpion,

or AB-10,

Uzi.

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):

Armscor 30 BG,

SPAS 12 or LAW 12,

Striker 12,

Streetsweeper.

Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,

(ii) a threaded barrel,

(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),

(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles). A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:

(i) a second pistol grip,

(ii) a threaded barrel,

(iii) a barrel shroud or

(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and

(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,

(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),

(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and

(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.”

Note that Obama’s pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, “there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.” In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose — is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.


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To: ArrogantBustard

If you’re talking about Hitler, he murdered a lot more than six million people ... at least 11.5 million, maybe (depending on how you account for deaths) up to 15 million. And yes, our current white house occupant seems to be starting down the same path. It always ends badly.
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Stalin murdered at least 30 million. He made Hitler look like a Boy Scout.


61 posted on 03/17/2009 7:30:06 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Obadiah
I sold all of mine and I lost the receipts.

I sold mine for cash in parking lots and didn't give receipts.

62 posted on 03/17/2009 7:30:57 AM PDT by nina0113 (Hugh Akston is my hero.)
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To: CholeraJoe
I gave mine away to the homeless.

So THAT's how ACORN is taking over foreclosed houses. Not sure that was the best plan, Joe.

63 posted on 03/17/2009 7:32:29 AM PDT by nina0113 (Hugh Akston is my hero.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“Old Teufel Hunden”...

That handle caught my attention. You Old Devil Dog you.


64 posted on 03/17/2009 7:33:34 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Communism is Socialism with a gun to your head.)
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To: unkus
Stalin murdered at least 30 million.

And Mao murdered even more.

They all insisted on disarming their subjects.

Now 0bama's Masters want to disarm Americans.

How many Americans do 0bama's Masters want to murder?

65 posted on 03/17/2009 7:35:22 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: mosaicwolf
"Does any fool actually think an American citizen will turn in his/her weapons? This is laughable!"

Unfortunately too many already have done so in DC, Chicago, NYC and Kalifornia. They know they can get a substantial portion with this.

66 posted on 03/17/2009 7:39:50 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: lula

Do Citadel “citizen-soldier” graduates qualify as militia in South Carolina?


67 posted on 03/17/2009 7:39:59 AM PDT by plsjr (<>< "Diversity" = "accept anything, including the worst" Choose the best on its own merits.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

No. The ‘big march’ is in Sept.
(I’m not a dude. I’m a dude-ette :) )


68 posted on 03/17/2009 7:40:10 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: ArrogantBustard

As many as it takes.


69 posted on 03/17/2009 7:40:14 AM PDT by unkus
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To: unkus
As many as it takes.

Yeah ... same answer as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot gave.

70 posted on 03/17/2009 7:41:48 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Beagle8U
Not to mention tournament shotguns. Every Beretta we own has a “threaded” barrel for the extended chokes. The “threaded” barrel inclusion would include all skeet/sporting clays semi-autos. Kiss your Remington 1100’s bye-bye.
71 posted on 03/17/2009 7:42:21 AM PDT by graywaiter (You can't multiply wealth by dividing it.............Dr. Adrian Rogers)
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To: marktwain

Some Kalashnikovs aren’t on the list. I won’t say which ones :)


72 posted on 03/17/2009 7:43:18 AM PDT by Spirochete
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To: ArrogantBustard; All
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty.
Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel.
Unfortunately nothing will preserve it but downright force.
Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.”

Patrick Henry

“How many Americans do 0bama’s Masters want to murder?”

As many as he wants if they're disarmed.

73 posted on 03/17/2009 7:43:23 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Communism is Socialism with a gun to your head.)
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To: marktwain
“there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.”

According to this nitwit, a Remington 700 is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, neither is any pump shotgun.

74 posted on 03/17/2009 7:48:22 AM PDT by Spirochete
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To: Hacklehead
“I sold all of mine and I lost the receipts.”

My dog ate all my receipts. Bad dog!

Could not and would not shot the dog.

Funny posting, too.

75 posted on 03/17/2009 7:48:39 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: Obadiah

Just as you can’t be “kinda liberal” or “kinda Muslim”. Revolutionary War II.


76 posted on 03/17/2009 7:49:07 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: Markos33

“Never Forget, even for an instant, that the one and only reason anybody has for taking your gun away is to make you weaker than he is, so he can do something to you that you wouldn’t allow him to do if you were equipped to prevent it. This goes for burglars, muggers, and rapists, and even more so for policemen, bureaucrats, and politicians.”
-Alexander Hope, from the novel “Hope” by L. Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman


77 posted on 03/17/2009 7:50:36 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: ArrogantBustard

These folks have the notion that if they pass a law about guns, then criminals will comply. Duh.


78 posted on 03/17/2009 7:52:11 AM PDT by Twinkie (Obama is NOT Reagan !)
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To: marktwain

Job Opening: Gun confiscation specialist for rural Alabama. Good pay, great benefits, high turnover rate.


79 posted on 03/17/2009 7:53:38 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: Twinkie
These folks have the notion that if they pass a law about guns, then criminals will comply. Duh.

I used to think that.

I quit thinking that several years ago.

It's not about crime or criminals. It never was. It's about controlling citizens; it's about turning public servants into public masters ... and killing anyone who objects.

80 posted on 03/17/2009 7:55:09 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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