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Obama’s Gun Ban List Is Out
Soldier of Fortune ^ | 13 March, 2009 | Alan Korwin

Posted on 03/17/2009 6:42:32 AM PDT by marktwain

Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.

Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.

Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady’s plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states’ rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine,

Sturm Ruger Mini-14,

AR-15,

Bushmaster XM15,

Armalite M15,

AR-10,

Thompson 1927,

Thompson M1;

AK,

AKM,

AKS,

AK-47,

AK-74,

ARM,

MAK90,

NHM 90,

NHM 91,

SA 85,

SA 93,

VEPR;

Olympic Arms PCR;

AR70,

Calico Liberty ,

Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,

Fabrique National FN/FAL,

FN/LAR, or FNC,

Hi-Point20Carbine,

HK-91,

HK-93,

HK-94,

HK-PSG-1,

Thompson 1927 Commando,

Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;

Saiga,

SAR-8,

SAR-4800,

SKS with detachable magazine,

SLG 95,

SLR 95 or 96,

Steyr AU,

Tavor,

Uzi,

Galil and Uzi Sporter,

Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).

Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

Calico M-110,

MAC-10,

MAC-11, or MPA3,

Olympic Arms OA,

TEC-9,

TEC-DC9,

TEC-22 Scorpion,

or AB-10,

Uzi.

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):

Armscor 30 BG,

SPAS 12 or LAW 12,

Striker 12,

Streetsweeper.

Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,

(ii) a threaded barrel,

(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),

(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles). A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:

(i) a second pistol grip,

(ii) a threaded barrel,

(iii) a barrel shroud or

(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and

(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,

(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),

(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and

(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.”

Note that Obama’s pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, “there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.” In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose — is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
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To: marktwain

WTF, I’ve only got 4 on the list.

Time to go shopping.


161 posted on 03/17/2009 12:31:45 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Eaker; MrB
He had a beard.

************

If he was wearing a hat I sold mine to the same guy.

RealTree camo ballcap, right? Man, that dude gets around.

162 posted on 03/17/2009 1:16:50 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: caver
Marlin Camp Carbine

No longer in production and way over priced considering what they were worth new. I looked into them. Marlin quit building them because they were afraid a criminal would use one in a crime :\

I'd make something similar to that though, except I'd try use gas operation instead of direct blowback like the Marlin. I could probably use a short stroke piston easily enough, but I've got an idea for new gas operation system that might be viable if some of the limitations can be overcome. It would provide the inherent accuracy and lightweight of direct impingement systems (like the AR15) but the reliability of gas piston designs (AK-47, Mini-14, M-1 Garand).
163 posted on 03/17/2009 1:32:54 PM PDT by JamesP81 (When Obama signed an order providing tax dollars to murder children, he stopped being my president)
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To: P8riot

I thought of buying one of those. Talking to people who have owned them, they say it makes a fun toy, but it’s exactly that: a toy. It likely wouldn’t tolerate hard use. I want to make something durable and dependable if you really need it.


164 posted on 03/17/2009 1:34:54 PM PDT by JamesP81 (When Obama signed an order providing tax dollars to murder children, he stopped being my president)
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To: Robe
All of my weapons fell out of a canoe on a hunting trip.. ;)

You had weapons?!?!?

165 posted on 03/17/2009 1:39:48 PM PDT by houeto (I see Obama voters...and it's changed my tipping habits.)
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To: girlscout

“I’ll stand up and fight for my rights, but I won’t be waving my guns around while doing so. “

If you have to keep your guns out of sight, the game is over friend.

“Shall not be infringed” means exactly that, it doesn’t mean “Shall not be infringed if you pretend you do not have any guns”


166 posted on 03/17/2009 2:26:00 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: aragorn

I haven’t hunted in years but I’m getting to the age where I could really enjoy an adrenalin boosting hobby.


167 posted on 03/17/2009 4:22:18 PM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar & Feathers, The New Look for Spring '09)
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To: Twinkie
These folks have the notion that if they pass a law about guns, then criminals will comply. Duh.

I don't think they believe that for a second.

It's their excuse for doing it (or, keeping Mexican cartels from getting American machine guns, or for the safety of the children, or whatever other crock of sh!t reason they dream up...).

No, they know dam good and well what they are trying to do - which is get rid of any potentially armed opposition and geld the populace. They just hope enough stupid schmucks buy their line of bullsh!te to either agree with them or insist it passes.

Frankly, they ought to be and should be good and scared of an armed and aroused American populace...

168 posted on 03/17/2009 5:20:10 PM PDT by Gritty (An unarmed man must depend on someone else to defend him and then becomes their subject- Machievelli)
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"The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable--and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come." - Patrick Henry, 1775

Why, oh why, do these words sound so prophetic and today?

169 posted on 03/17/2009 5:30:52 PM PDT by Gritty (I don't believe that people should be able to own guns-Barack Obama response to John Lott, 1996)
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To: marktwain

Too bad for 0bambi that the Heller case reached SCOTUS. As noted in the decision, classes of firearms may not be banned. Just wait... it won’t be long until we kill the “Hughes Amendment” also known as the 1986 machine gun ban.

We aren’t waiting for the anti’s anymore... we’re on the attack. Keep watching for news from the Heller Team out of DC in the next week or so.

Mike


170 posted on 03/17/2009 5:37:08 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: girlscout
Yes Mother Nature can be a real Hag... ;)
171 posted on 03/17/2009 6:14:30 PM PDT by Redcitizen (The Death Star is the ultimate in peacekeeping.)
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To: LouAvul
Do you doubt that Obama, Biden, Schumer, Kennedy, Feinstein et al are planning to ban permanently the kinds of guns on this list?

The list may be unofficial or completely fabricated, but the fact is they are going to do it sometime soon. Just waiting for the time.

They need a really high-profile shooting with a stereotyped gun on the list. You can take that to the bank. It IS coming.

172 posted on 03/17/2009 7:44:18 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: marktwain
Hey, Holder, you pussy.

I dare you. I double-dog dare you.

173 posted on 03/17/2009 8:06:20 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Red in Blue PA
If you have to keep your guns out of sight, the game is over friend.

One does not win wars by letting the enemy choose the terms of battle. If the enemy is prepared for engagement today, but you can prevent the enemy from winning any major victory today (e.g. by successfully concealing a supply of weapons that will be usable to restore legitimate government) then you may be able to attack the enemy at a time when it is not so prepared.

174 posted on 03/17/2009 9:09:50 PM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: marktwain

bttt


175 posted on 03/17/2009 9:11:26 PM PDT by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Sender
The list may be unofficial or completely fabricated, but the fact is they are going to do it sometime soon. Just waiting for the time.

You're admitting that the list is contrived, yet insist we should be alarmed. Are you stupid?

When the time comes, then sound the alarm. Until that time, why don't you drama queens knock off the high school hystrionics.

176 posted on 03/17/2009 9:58:41 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul
Are you stupid?

Not last time I looked.

177 posted on 03/17/2009 10:03:32 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: toeknee32

Yep. Reads like a shopping list to me.


178 posted on 03/17/2009 10:08:42 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: mojitojoe

It’s an article from infowars.com and has been put to sleep a dozen times on a gun board called The High Road because a) it’s false and b) infowars is not a reliable website.


179 posted on 03/17/2009 10:09:23 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: marktwain

I also know Alan Korwin. He was on our petition drive to remove McCain from office. In fact, I have a T-shirt of his band. Dang, they’re funny but really serious. Also have his book on AZ laws for carrying. Good man.

Thanks, marktwain. Are we all selling our guns to each other? Be hard to find that way. And legal . . .


180 posted on 03/17/2009 10:10:20 PM PDT by Slip18
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