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Why Rush is Wrong (Hey Frum, I want Obama to fail!)
msnbc ^ | 3/7/2009 | David Frum

Posted on 03/07/2009 7:56:01 PM PST by tobyhill

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To: Jeff Head
soft-spoken and conciliatory, never angry, always invoking the recession and its victims. This president invokes the language of "responsibility," and in his own life seems to epitomize that ideal

Geez, Frum, get a room.

Conciliatory? "I won."

Never angry? Membership in an anti-Jewish church? ACORN??? "Typical white person," the constant slamming of Bush. Frum doesn't seem to understand that one doesn't always yell when angry. Obama will appear in public standing quietly and saying nothing, even while his minions in the press are, say, opening up sealed divorce documents of political rivals. Is Frum so shallow that he can't understand someone who knows when the camera is on.

Always invoking the recession and its victims--in order to use their plight for political gain, portraying those opposing his positions as selfish and not caring about the victims. (Can Frum REALLY be this dense?)

Epitomizes responsibility? You mean when he's blaming Bush for everything?

His characterization of Rush is interesting, because he chooses only the negative and avoids the positive--aggressive instead of passionate, for example--the reverse of his bizarre portrait of Obama. And oddly enough, one could take all of what he says about Rush and apply it to many of the "victims" Obama so cares about. Odd how he talks about CPAC but not the Republican-bashing yukfest where Obama had crowd of Dems cheering his every rancorous word.

Frum's true nature is all over this. He needs to check his "conservatism".

21 posted on 03/07/2009 8:25:59 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Behind enemy lines in Boston and Cambridge)
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To: tobyhill
But the connection between big government and today's most pressing problems is not as close or as pressing as it was 27 years ago.

Yea. Big government has nothing to do with the mortgage meltdown. Mr Frum, you aren't nearly as bright as you seem to believe yourself to be. And if you think Rush is a racist why don't you just come out and say so? Then back it up with some quotes. And after you've quoted innocuous statements, tell us why we a PC type like yourself, that swallows whole the left wing view of who is and isn't acceptable in polite company, should be considered conservative because you once wrote a speech. Sarah Palin is vastly smarter and more competent than you.

22 posted on 03/07/2009 8:27:36 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Texas Eagle
"...and there are reports that he also used cocaine..."

No "report" there. He admitted it in his book:"...Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it..."

(His words)

23 posted on 03/07/2009 8:27:42 PM PST by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: DManA
Frum is a spineless moron. The only way to win is to fight the Libs and Frum ain't up to it.
24 posted on 03/07/2009 8:28:47 PM PST by tobyhill (Obama gets no free pass from Free Republic!)
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To: rlmorel
Frum wants all Conservatives to abandon our principles and embrace new one. Frum is just a CINO, Conservative In Name Only.
25 posted on 03/07/2009 8:33:19 PM PST by tobyhill (Obama gets no free pass from Free Republic!)
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To: tobyhill
On the one side, the president of the United States: soft-spoken and conciliatory, never angry, always invoking the recession and its victims. This president invokes the language of "responsibility," and in his own life seems to epitomize that ideal: He is physically honed and disciplined, his worst vice an occasional cigarette. He is at the same time an apparently devoted husband and father. Unsurprisingly, women voters trust and admire him.

Conciliatory??? "I won" is conciliatory?

His worst vice an occasional cigarette? How about singlehandedly destroying this country? He swore to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the US. Hell, he's not even trying! He's a liar!

Levin was right. You are a putz!

26 posted on 03/07/2009 8:37:51 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: tobyhill
I'm a conservative Republican, have been all my adult life.

I wonder if this RINO sack of cr*p believes his own lies?

27 posted on 03/07/2009 8:40:24 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tobyhill

Republicans, who are conservatives are faced with a conundrum! If they allow the likes of Frum and others of his ilk to proclaim themselves Republicans, then what’s to stop all manner of circus freaks to come under the “Big Top” (er...tent)?


28 posted on 03/07/2009 8:42:06 PM PST by old school
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To: tobyhill

Following in FDRs footsteps he’s sure to fail and I probably won’t live long enough to see the end of the depression that he is trying to extend for many years.


29 posted on 03/07/2009 8:54:36 PM PST by dalereed
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To: tobyhill

Frum is a non-entity to conservatives now. He might as well become a Dimocrat.


30 posted on 03/07/2009 8:59:29 PM PST by WillT
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To: 50cal Smokepole
Thank You Mark!! Frum needs to be knocked off the pedestal he has affixed himself to. He is WRONG, and you friend, are right. But you already know that :) I know you post here, and I am sorry I have forgotten you FR name, or I would ping you to this post.

And if I hear one more time that Rush needs to appeal to women, I think I might just smack someone. I don't know any women who don't love Rush, unless they are liberals.

31 posted on 03/07/2009 9:02:03 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Jeff Head

The media just won’t stop. Newsweek would never give the cover story to someone who would defend Rush.

All this crap was started by Paul Begala and the band of thugs.

Paul Begala. The guy who said this.

“I was driving past the Pentagon when that plane hit” on Sept. 11, 2001. “I had friends on that plane; this is deadly serious to me,” Begala said.

“They want to kill me and my children if they can. But if they just kill me and not my children, they want my children to be comforted — that while they didn’t protect me because they cut my taxes, my children won’t have to pay any money on the money they inherit,” Begala said. “That is bulls*** national defense, and we should say that.”


32 posted on 03/07/2009 9:02:40 PM PST by JRochelle (Don't smoke the Hopium.)
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To: rlmorel
No "report" there. He admitted it in his book:"...Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it..." (His words)

Thanks for the assist. I was trying to give Present Potato Head the benefit of the doubt. Which, come to think of it, is a trait I've acquired since I've become a Dittohead.

Which reminds me. David Frum says Rush "claims" 20 million listeners. Now, I'm no expert on how ratings are established, but I believe there is an outfit that has a vested interest in providing accurate audience numbers called Arbitron (sp?) and it is THEY who are the source for the number of listeners Rush has.

I wonder who provides the math when it comes to readers of Frum's rag, Newsweak. I realize I am going out on a limb by saying this but my spidey senses tell me the number of people who read Newsweak doesn't come anywhere near the number of people who listen to Limbaugh.

33 posted on 03/07/2009 9:18:13 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: tobyhill

Where is that damn hook to take this moron off the stage.


34 posted on 03/07/2009 9:42:44 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: tobyhill

Frum makes a lot of good points, but throughout his column I got a whiff of fear. I’ll take Rush’s honest, combative rhetoric over Frum’s duplicitous intellectual reasoning any day, especially when that intellectual reasoning starts to sound like, “Let’s fool the voters by pretending to be Democrat-lite.” Why else would Frum acknowledge that Al Gore’s alarmist “global warming” scheme to help the Euro-socialists redistribute Americans’ wealth? We should go along with Gore’s scheme a little bit, says Frum. Okay. And a little bit of cancer never hurt anybody, either.


35 posted on 03/07/2009 9:50:51 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: tobyhill
This president ... is physically honed and disciplined, his worst vice an occasional cigarette.

And for the leader of the Republicans? With his private plane and his cigars, his history of drug dependency and his personal bulk


What on Earth is Frum trying to say here? Do ideas, principles and philosophies mean nothing to the man, or is he admitting that he's simply one of the many empty-headed fools who base their politics on whoever they find most personally attractive?


36 posted on 03/07/2009 9:51:58 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: tobyhill

I can almost guarantee something happened in Frum’s personal life to make him flip-flop so dramatically. He has literally lost his mind and is now shilling for the Dems unabashedly.


37 posted on 03/07/2009 9:54:36 PM PST by DesertRenegade
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To: tobyhill

Isn’t Frum the tard that claims to speak for conservatives???


38 posted on 03/07/2009 9:55:47 PM PST by Fred (Proud Member of the Obama Enemies List)
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To: tobyhill
The glaring error in Frum,s opinion is that a conservative, lets say, like myself, listens to Rush because I agree with him

WRONGO


I LISTEN TO RUSH BECAUSE HE AGREES WITH ME!!!!!


39 posted on 03/07/2009 10:01:50 PM PST by Fred (Proud Member of the Obama Enemies List)
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To: DesertRenegade

Soon to be the next David Gergen.


40 posted on 03/07/2009 10:02:44 PM PST by Fred (Proud Member of the Obama Enemies List)
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