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Mexico’s gun laws responsible for violent holocaust?
Austin Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 5 March, 2009 | Howard Nemerov

Posted on 03/06/2009 7:06:06 AM PST by marktwain

Research from the United Nations (UN) indicates that it may be Mexico’s own restrictive gun control laws which contribute to the country’s rising murder rates.

In Mexico, possession of firearms above .22 caliber is practically prohibited, though there is a second set of rules for the wealthy. Mexico also requires registration for all civilian gun owners, and federal and state governments actively discourage firearms ownership. Nevertheless, over 6,000 Mexicans have been murdered in the last year––700 in the past month––due to the battle over the drug trade.

The Daily Mail reports:

Every day, gun battles rage along Triumph of the Republic Boulevard, the [Ciudad Juarez] main thoroughfare, and the heads of enemies of the drug lords have been impaled on spikes in parks once popular with picnicking families. Hospitals treating victims regularly come under machine-gun fire. Radios used by emergency services are interrupted by the drugs gangs, who warn paramedics they will be killed if they treat any wounded.

As noted in the reference to Mexico’s civilian gun laws above, corruption also plays a part in the murder rate.

National Public Radioreports:

Mexican authorities arrested the chief of police in Cancun in connection with the brutal kidnapping, torture and murder of retired army Brig. Gen. Enrique Tello.

United Nations research

The Small Arms Survey (SAS) is an internationally-respected organization on gun violence research, often working with the United Nations:

The Small Arms Survey undertakes joint research projects with independent researchers, international organizations, UN agencies, research organizations, NGOs, and partner institutions.

As a United Nations resource, SAS explains their perspective on firearms:

The proliferation of small arms and light weapons represents a grave threat to human security. The unchecked spread of these weapons has exacerbated inter- and intra-state conflicts, contributed to human rights violations, undermined political and economic development, destabilized communities, and devastated the lives of millions of people.

It's safe to say that SAS supports gun control.

In 1999, UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan stated: Even in societies not beset by civil war, the easy availability of small arms has in many cases contributed to violence and political instability. These, in turn, have damaged development prospects and imperiled human security in every way.*

It's also safe to say the United Nations supports gun control. Therefore, it seems reasonable to conclude that these international players have data showing a correlation between increased civilian firearms inventory and a violent crime indicator such as homicide rates. So let's see what their data tells us.

Between 2003 and 2007, Small Arms Survey compiled civilian firearms inventories for various countries around the world. The European Sourcebook of Crime and Criminal Justice Statistics – 2006, published under the auspices of the Council of Europe, compiled crime data for the greater European region for the years 2000-2003.

This research group “included several members involved in recent UN [crime] surveys.” The latest (2003) values appear in the table below, in order to best correlate firearms ownership with murder rates (expressed as offenses per 100,000 population).

Collating Sourcebook data with SAS firearms per capita data, an interesting trend appears: Higher levels of civilian firearms ownership correlates with lower levels of homicide, and countries with the highest civilian firearms ownership averaged lower homicide rates.

Firearms Versus Homicide

Quartile Firearms per Capita Homicide Rate

1 0.374 1.6

2 0.147 2.5

3 0.083 2.7

4 0.020 3.5

The top quartile is comprised of developed western economies. These data contradict Annan’s assertion that firearms “damaged development prospects and imperiled human security” and the SAS assertion that firearms availability “undermined political and economic development.” The UN’s own reports prove that other factors besides gun control play a larger role in homicide rates.

Returning to Mexico, the UN Office on Drugs and Crime reported that in 2000 (latest UN data), Mexico’s homicide rate was 14.11, over 2.5 times the U.S. rate, and Mexico’s violent crime increased 68% through mid-2007.

Why aren’t the “experts” acknowledging their own data?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; guns; mexico
I could not make the table come out right, but the first digit is the quartile.
1 posted on 03/06/2009 7:06:07 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“Why aren’t the “experts” acknowledging their own data?”

If the data don’t fit
you must chuck it


2 posted on 03/06/2009 7:10:22 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 43 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: marktwain

“Higher levels of civilian firearms ownership correlates with lower levels of homicide, and countries with the highest civilian firearms ownership averaged lower homicide rates.”

This was buried near the bottom. But to read the article the proliferation of guns lead to less security. was the lead in conclusion.

United Nothings propaganda.


3 posted on 03/06/2009 7:11:09 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: marktwain; SwinneySwitch; Travis McGee; gubamyster; HiJinx; SandRat

“Collating Sourcebook data with SAS firearms per capita data, an interesting trend appears: Higher levels of civilian firearms ownership correlates with lower levels of homicide, and countries with the highest civilian firearms ownership averaged lower homicide rates.”

Thanks for posting this. It shoots down the Mexican argument that ALL their problems come from the USA and our guns.

Mexico needs the 2nd amendment.


4 posted on 03/06/2009 7:11:11 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: marktwain
Mexico’s gun laws responsible for violent holocaust?

No...they simply exacerbate the problem created by the US 'War on Drugs'.
5 posted on 03/06/2009 7:13:51 AM PST by rottndog (If the left understood and obeyed the 10th Commandment, maybe they would obey the 10th Amendment!)
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To: marktwain

Since when did Mexico legalize private gun ownership?


6 posted on 03/06/2009 7:16:31 AM PST by SwankyC (Please stand by - The govt will be there to help you in just a few moments.)
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To: marktwain
"Violent Holocaust"?
7 posted on 03/06/2009 7:19:47 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: marktwain; BGHater; nbhunt; La Lydia; jafojeffsurf; B.O. Plenty; HiJinx; skeptoid; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


8 posted on 03/06/2009 7:19:50 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations.)
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To: SwankyC
Since when did Mexico legalize private gun ownership?

They didn't. But, when given a choice between kidnap or murder of you or your family, and illegally owning firearms, the logical and pragmatic choice is owning guns.

And, since owning those guns is illegal anyway, what you own makes no difference. It's all the the same, single shot or full auto. You just hope there are (1.) No witnesses, or (2.) Any officials involved will accept cash to look the other way, or (3.) You are very well connected politically, socially, or by marriage.

9 posted on 03/06/2009 5:54:33 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom - It's not just a job, It's an Adventure)
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Ping!


10 posted on 03/06/2009 8:36:23 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: marktwain
There is no 2nd Amendment in Mexico.

How are those firearms prohibitions working out for you, Pedro?

11 posted on 03/06/2009 9:19:22 PM PST by Gritty (The right to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government and tyranny-Hubert Hu)
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