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India warns Obama on intervening in Kashmir
The Financial Times ^ | February 4, 2009 | James Lamont and Amy Kazmin

Posted on 02/04/2009 9:05:14 PM PST by indcons

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To: indcons
Obama's risking putting US on the side of the terrorists in this one.

KASHMIR: Paradise turned into Hell

42 posted on 02/05/2009 1:50:35 AM PST by XR7
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Appeal

The armed subversion by Muslim fundamentalist/terrorist youth to destroy the pluralistic, secular socio-political character of Kashmir valley and reduce it to a reactionary, monolithic, theocratic one, has entered its seventh year of operation. The grand design of this separatist insurgency is aimed at snapping all historical, economic, cultural, and political links of Kashmir valley with India and annexing it with Pakistan which is encouraging it overtly and covertly and lending moral, financial, political, diplomatic and military support. The first objective of this diabolical plan i.e. hounding out the Kashmiri Pandit (Hindu) ethnic minority from the Kashmir valley is being pursued with fanatic zeal.


43 posted on 02/05/2009 2:00:42 AM PST by XR7
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To: Dajjal

ping.


44 posted on 02/05/2009 2:01:03 AM PST by XR7
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To: bray
""You kill a chicken to scare a monkey," Mr Mohan said at a recent seminar in New Delhi on US relations with south Asia."

"Say what?" said one Obama supporter. Said the other Obama suporter, "He said you have to choke your chicken and spank your monkey."

45 posted on 02/05/2009 2:58:31 AM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: indcons

Isn’t it clear? bo wants to destabalize Pakistan so his Terrorist Pals can get their hands on the Nuclear Weapons.

http://defendourfreedoms.us/


46 posted on 02/05/2009 4:51:06 AM PST by FreeManN (DefendOurFreedoms.US)
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To: zeebee

When is the last time the Indian government spoke to an American president like that? He needs to step back and evaluate why.

He’s pushy, and trying to push HIS agenda on other world governments. He’s overstepping his boundries, badly.
And it seems like he’s rushing and in a hurry. Don’t you think?


47 posted on 02/05/2009 5:26:34 AM PST by HollyB
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To: Enterprise

Lol, that’s pretty funny. But, I am still scratching my head on that chicken/monkey statement.


48 posted on 02/05/2009 5:27:55 AM PST by HollyB
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To: HollyB

The Indian diplomat who made the comment is already facing flak for it, in India.


49 posted on 02/05/2009 6:55:48 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: HollyB
it seems like he’s rushing and in a hurry. Don’t you think?

Yes. It seems he cannot deal with the pressure from his commie friends demanding payback.

How is he going to deal with a real problem?

50 posted on 02/05/2009 7:08:48 AM PST by zeebee
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

So the Indian diplomat is getting flak, I don’t know why, it seemed like a natural thing to do when there is a new president pushing their ridiculous agenda on his country within 2 weeks.

By the way, I was referring to Obama when I said ‘He needs to step back and evaluate why’.


51 posted on 02/05/2009 7:09:35 AM PST by HollyB
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To: HollyB

I can only guess that chickens and monkeys are more of a cultural presence in some parts of the world than ours. Perhaps over there a monkey gets a bit too rambunctious and misbehaves and exasperates the people. You can’t exactly yell at a monkey and tell it to stop and calm down. But if you kill a chicken that MIGHT get the stupid monkey’s attention where words fail.


52 posted on 02/05/2009 7:34:37 AM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: indcons

HE’S AN IDIOT, PLAIN AND SIMPLE


53 posted on 02/05/2009 7:42:24 AM PST by peace with honor
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To: HollyB
The comment is related to the recent incident with David Milliband, the foreign secretary of the UK. Milliband recently visited India, and created a diplomatic storm by saying that finishing the Kashmir dispute will end terrorism in India. (In other words appeasing the terrorists and giving them victory). India showed a lot of displeasure at this comment and basically told him that (my words) he is a young buffoon who should butt out of this issue he does not understand. Needless to say, Milliband's visit became rather cold and uncomfortable, and he went home after creating a rift between the two countries. Shortly after his visit the British trade minister arrived in India, but was given a lukewarm reception. The British PM had to clarify on Millibands comments, saying that they were his own personal views.

It is believed that Milliband's views are shared by his left-wing brothers in the U.S. So India's reaction to Milliband was supposed to send a message to the Obama admin.

54 posted on 02/05/2009 7:50:27 AM PST by Moorings
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To: Moorings

Exactly. A better explanation couldn’t have been worded.


55 posted on 02/05/2009 8:32:26 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: indcons

You know, what with all the emphasis on the Muslim and Arab worlds, the US policy of the importance of elections, apart from some reports on the BBC, there was virtually no coverage in the US TV media althought some in print.

Three major regions, all mountainous, a complex ballot, helicopters and security forces used to transport ballots and guard against jihadis, a substantial portion of the population voting - all ignored. The BBC managed to find some stubborn jihadis, anti India, railing against the polls. How many elections has Pukeistan run in “Azad” Kashmir? Zip, Zero.

Apart from the sheer accomplishment of pulling off an election in the most trying circumstances, the US media ignored the significance of elections in such a volatile region of the world. Muslims, voting mainly peacably, as part of a multiparty slate, in the largest democracy.

But, fret not, Holbrooke will not have Kashmir as an official part of his portfolio, but judging from the advisers(Ahmad Rashid, Barnett Rubin), Pakistan will have an substantial voice in lassoing Kashmir into the discussions.

I doubt it succeeds too much since Pakistan’s credibility is completely shredded and even their most staunch allies in the West offer tepid support, at best.


56 posted on 02/05/2009 11:21:12 AM PST by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: Moorings

For a diplomat, Milli sure put both feet in his mouth.

What a Putz.

Additionally, the significance of his remarks is that it gave sustenance to the IslamabadPakistani Military and State in their desire to keep Kashmir inflamed, and also their jihadi buddies in Kashmir, directly encouraging jihadis in Kashmir to keep killing Indians.

He gave tremendous encouragement to those who advocate jihad, as it validated their entire philosophy.

Perversely enough, he has also encouraged more murderous attacks in the UK by the jihadis his country seems infested with.


57 posted on 02/05/2009 11:28:52 AM PST by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: Enterprise

Google Indian Monkey Attacks or something similar, and you see the efficacy of the man’s statement.

Monkeys can get nasty. And, not that I’ve seen it, but a dead chicken bleeding onto the bushes would intimidate the monkeys into silence or dispersal. Just the act may be enough.

Prolly more of a rural solution than an urban one, lol.


58 posted on 02/05/2009 11:31:51 AM PST by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: swarthyguy
He basically shot down everthing the civilized world has been fighting for the last eight years...to make terrorism costly and not a good tool for achieving the aims of those who use this tool.
59 posted on 02/05/2009 12:41:35 PM PST by Moorings
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To: Moorings; Enterprise

Thanks to both of you for your replies. Well said.


60 posted on 02/05/2009 6:51:20 PM PST by HollyB
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