Skip to comments.Internet Powerhouse Andy Martin says Barack Obama is a bogus Christian
Posted on 01/18/2009 6:52:28 PM PST by FreeAtlanta
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Barack Obama is a deeply wicked man. And I can show why he deserves that title.
He has hired the same secretary sinkEmperor used (Betty Currie), so he can borrow the same big Bible from her!
Finally, I have something I can call he Who Must Not Be Named; “Obogus”.
The term “bogon” stems from hacker jargon, where it is defined as the quantum of “bogosity”, or the property of being bogus. A bogon packet is frequently bogus both in the conventional sense of being forged for illegitimate purposes, and in the hackish sense of being incorrect, absurd, and useless: see Quantum bogodynamics
Dunno about wicked, just bogus.
I’m not a real big bible guy, so that slipped past me.
Zero as Bogus still floats tho - eh?
Absolutely ... he’s even a bogey
No one knows if Obama is saved except God... however... Zer0’s stance on abortion is enough to tell. The man who said that the question of abortion is above his pay grade...
the man who invited a radical Muslim to pray at the inagural.The man who asks us to sacrifice for the state his faith in Jesus.
The bible instructs us to be wary of false prophets.
The U.C.C. is a counterfeit radical racist church.
It’s apparent that liberals while sneering at Christians have no problem with Obama’s reverend condemning an
entire country and relishing in 9/11.
Andy Martin is a charlatan. I actually came into this forum promoting his angle (which I still think reasonable) that Frank Marshal Davis is biological pop to whats-his-name. Martin gave a sound explanation as to why the babe probably wasnt born in Kenya, this being costs and timing of the trip(s).
But Andy Martin blithely said Granny Sarah wasnt the mom to BO Sr, that she was mom to a the third/next BO Sr wife. He said this in a truenews.com internet radio interview I believe of 31 Oct. I posted into FR starting a thread. In the whirlwind vortex there with really just having gotten my feet wet (been about six weeks on the eligibility issue), I accepted this and waited for more. I looked up the third wife at some point, she be Caucasian American. No way. I saw mentions of a secret marriage of BO Sr, generally (in the maybe two allusions I saw) thought to be after the US white. Perhaps one mention was of a secret marriage that was not giving the sync.
Nothing further came from AM, not even in a fairly recent Plains Radio interview. Yet even in the Dec 8 National Press Club presentation by Berg, Taitz etc, a question went to Berg phrased more as a comment, that Granny Sarah was a step-grandmother to Jr. Berg certainly acted as if he never heard this, or was displaying ire for it even being brought up, as AM detests Berg and Martin alone has so maintained. Martin has since let this critical piece hang, and hang, and hang. He was on a Plains Radio show about mid Dec? with Bob?Vernon and said nothing to this, but continued to ballyhoo how he knew Bergs suit improper and all.
Notice to any and all who hold Martin legit: it cant be true because it isnt. It isnt true because it cant be. Granny Sarah wouldnt be so featured and public as she has been should she have been granny via a secret marriage, to boot. Im not the least bit interested in what he documents in the book of his on this subject, which cant be anything.
Martin had done some good to push the issue forward but he has made himself into a charlatan with this one act.
I tried hanging on thru his HI court stuff thinking him an idiot-savant but had to admit to myself not soon afterward the guys a loon. He may have been driven over the edge with divorce proceedings being divulged by a cadre of bankruptcy judges, but he is a pitiful hulk nonetheless.
He does have a knack for writing and could be one of the very-near-last of a breed in that hes old and experienced enough to have tracked local (in his case to Chicago etc) politics as few, but hes not the very last, as he stated on the more recent internet radio show. There must be a couple more of the breed, as Howie Carr of Boston is one- knows the mob stuff, the connections to the pols, all that. Perhaps one could say Martin got crushed because Chicago is just so very diabolical no one could survive to tell all that- as relative to how Carr has in Boston.
By the way, Martin said to Vernon he was in need of funds to continue his research for documentation. He did say this very casually- it wasnt phrased as a plea. I presume hes trying to let the step-grandmother thing hang until then, among other things. I think Ive visited his various high-powered sites (hes got three right?) a total of three times since mid Nov.
Of course Obamas a bogus Christian. I caught a testimony from an irate black minister I believe on the initial petition on O eligibility wherein he cites reading of or seeing a video interview of a couple women in the Southwest (I think Arizona) wherein they ask O what he does in time of nervousness or spontaneous need (or somesuch) and he responded by pulling from his pocket and showing them a Hindu amulet of some kind while he explained he fingered this inside his pocket when he was in some kind of need. The minister who wrote on this went on a very sound dressing-down of O and his sport called Christianity. Then there is James Cone. These people are antichristian posers as easy to see to be so, as they come.
What exactly is a “powerhouse,” anyway?
Most houses nowadays have electricity, so I don’t think that’s it.
Is it supposed to be some kind of building with a generator in it?
‘But Andy Martin blithely said Granny Sarah wasnt the mom to BO Sr, that she was mom to a the third/next BO Sr wife”
This is true.
Sarah is the “stepmom” to Barack Obama Sr. Barack Sr’s REAL mother left the family (note: it was normal for several wives in that tribe) when Barack was a toddler and Sarah took him in as her own. I have read this in several accounts. It’s just one of those things that they don’t talk about alot,although God knows why. I guess they don’t want to make him seem any more freakish than he does. I mean how many typical Americans have this grandparantage as their story?
Woah, guess I just didn’t look, along with Berg and about yea many others - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_Sr.:
“His family are members of the Luo ethnic group. He was the son of Onyango Obama (c. 1895-1979) who had at least three wives; Barack Obama Sr. was the son of Akumu Habiba, the second wife. However, he was raised by Onyango’s third wife, Sarah, after Akumu left her family and separated from her husband in 1945.
 a b Kimberly Powell (2008). “Ancestry of Barack Obama”. About.com. Retrieved on 2008-09-26.
 Reitwiesner, William Addams. “Ancestry of Barack Obama”. Retrieved on 2008-11-21.
Much clickable in above.
This being understood (finally by myself), there is nothing to say why Martin was stating-as-fact on truenews end Oct that Granny Sarah could NEVER have been present for the birth of Jr in Kenya, as he specifically was saying she came along later, after 1961. He was saying it was “a stretch” (exact phrase I recall) to think a FUTURE step-mom would be at birth of FUTURE hubby’s kid by then-present wife. To be redundant to make clear, he was speaking to later-than-1961 wife who’d be daughter to Granny Sarah, that daughter being betrothed without acknowledgment by biographers.
Martin has completely screwed up. He can’t use the “step-grandmother” argument to decidedly quash the Kenyan birth of Bam-Bam, as he made out he was so doing.
As Howie Carr says, a reporter AND hardbound book publisher (which is what Martin is) is doing very well to get 90% right, myself thinking Carr was saying this especially in respect to the lugubrious world of corrupt politics. They will trap you in disinfo somewhere along the way. It is impossible in the flurries of local politics in the last few decades to get it ALL right. There simply aren’t enough corroborating sources, one being cut-off by incestuous cops, judges, editors. Local stories will inevitably flounder, crash and burn. To get these untainted expanded stories into book form as Royko, Breslin, Hamill et al is impossible today, given the publishers. Conservative publishers are on the national and international level, not local. Everything is global now, eh!? Local-based internet reporters aren’t getting printed books done and distributed into regular bookstores and can’t get reviewed and promoted in MSM. The classic city investigative reporter is a dying breed. Its one big reason Jr snuck through, right!
Martin probably was sound enough at the craft in Chi-town, but has completely blown it here, along with a couple LOUD claims he’d deliver goods on other things Obama. One can NOT get let’s say the half-keystone wrong in central rebuff to Kenya-birth argument. This is the VERY big leagues and
Returning to same wiki: “While at Harvard, Obama Sr. met an American-born teacher named Ruth Nidesand. She followed him to Kenya when he returned there after he received a master’s degree (AM) in economics from Harvard in 1965. Nidesand eventually became his third wife and had two children with him before they divorced.”
On the Hawaiian legal action by Martin, he DID do some good but failed to integrate aspects of what this VT woman offers specific to the very basic HI COLB problem at http://crisericson.com/
I ping again to list again, even all know the basic contentions - the popular O Sr account. Sorry once again!
Andy Martin was applying AMERICAN and ENGLISH law/principles to an AFRICAN family/tribe.
In applying “Stepmother” to Barack Sr., it would NORMALLY mean that the Step-parent came along AFTER the fact. But Barack Sr.’s MOTHER WAS HIS FATHER’S 2nd WIFE. Meaning Sarah was already a wife when Barack SENIOR was born.
Therefore, Sarah was there when Barack Sr. was born, this has been a bone of contention and confusion for many.
NOW Sarah says, “no, I meant I was there when Barack Sr. was born, not Barack Jr., the President” when asked to clarify if she did in fact state “I was there when Barack was born”. Which could have very well been the case. But so many have said, “No, that couldn’t be it because she was his STEPMOTHER” (once again, applying AMERICAN PRINCIPLES to this situation and assuming this meant Sarah came along AFTER Barack was born, which is not true-multiple wives were common in the Lua tribe)
Therefore, Andy Martin is correct AND incorrect.
Does this make sense? Please ping your list to my explanation as I understand it and let me know if I am off base.
LOL you knew I would correct anything that had mistakes in it so here I am. Obama Sr returned to Kenya in 1964 not 1965 as is commonly reported. Ruth followed him to Kenya and they married but researching dates I discovered that Mark Ndesandjo was born in 1964 in Kenya. I have not found a date of marriage for Obama Sr and Ruth as of yet nor have I found a date of birth for the son David who died in 1987 in the motorcycle accident. Obama Sr and Ruth were married for 7 years before she filed for divorce. An account I read the other night mentioned a car accident involving Obama Sr when Kezia first discovered that Obama Sr had married Ruth. The two women met in the hospital and although the account gave 1981 as the date I believe the author was referring to the 1971 accident. 1971 would have been correct since by 1981 Ruth was married to the Tanzanian and had given birth to third son Joseph(he was born in 1980) Apparently Kezia was quite surprised to learn that Ruth was Obama Sr’s wife, which gives a lie to the fact that she had been quoted as saying she gave permission for Obama Sr to marry. One lie leads to another to another.....
Chief, can you look over my post #53 and let me know if I have this correctly or if I am explaining it right?
You did a good job explaining the difference between American and English systems over the accepted polygany of Kenya. Obama Sr’s first stepmother had no children which is a big no-no if you will. The second wife had two children with Obama Sr being one of those. Sarah, the third wife was a member of the family prior to Obama Sr’s birth and essentially raised him after his own mother deserted him. It goes into the concept of “sister wifes” as mentioned by the FLDS but Americans cannot relate to having multiple wifes, with many men thinking one mother in law is sometimes more than enough!(Sorry I tried to put a bit of levity into the explanation!)
Ive sent yall my posts 49 & 52.
autumnraine has come back between with 51, and a real bit of news to me with post 53 which bears repeating
and I thank you autumnraine, and certainly I ping to my list as you so request:
[NOW Sarah says, no, I meant I was there when Barack Sr. was born, not Barack Jr., the President when asked to clarify if she did in fact state I was there when Barack was born. Which could have very well been the case. But so many have said, No, that couldnt be it because she was his STEPMOTHER (once again, applying AMERICAN PRINCIPLES to this situation and assuming this meant Sarah came along AFTER Barack was born, which is not true-multiple wives were common in the Lua tribe)
Therefore, Andy Martin is correct AND incorrect.]
Chief comes in on 54 to correct Wiki. We should have a movement that results in Chief having final say in all Wiki concerning areas of Chiefs expertise on O, Wiki to lockdown all entries thereafter. Of course Im being cynical but what magnificent work. Thanks for coming in here Chief.
See then posts 55 & 56, wherein autumnraine aaks for a Chiefcheck. Seems autu has done quite well.
Will someone please leave a gold brick at Chiefs door and also be willing to arrainge open-ended, complete on-call assistance by the very most trustworthy individual to construction of a completely impervious website at Chiefs full instruction? Is this too much to ask?
While youre at it drop me a lifetime supply of printer ink. I can then actually SEE and keep better track of posts. I am a victim of the NEAs look-see tyranny and a graphically-aligned sort anyways, in case ur wondrin.
Good to get this straightened out, even on the eve this dirtball usurpers installation. What a snake this guy is. Everything is smoke and mirrors. Thanks again autu- sure went over my poor head. When the hell did this NOW happen? Dont feel obliged to answer, but it’d be a good 2 know. Im of the ‘non-Kenyan-birth’ stripe anyways.
It’s no problem BonRad.
It is extremely confusing to the average person who applies western logic to a non-western person. Obama might “multi-cultural” and “respresent the world” in America, but he is in NO WAY “as Amercan as Mom’s Apple pie”.
I did my usual quick run through of FR after dinner then went back to searching. It bothered me that Kezia said she gave permission for Obama Sr to marry Ann and yet the same wasn’t said about Obama Sr’s marriage to Ruth. I went looking using the search term “Kezia Obama”. Naturally the first stories I found mentioned her grand trip to the airport and how airline staff presented her with a cake for her 68th birthday. A further story announced that when she returns to the U.K. after the coronation she plans on applying for British citizenship because she loves bingo and Sunday dinners as served in England. I did find verification that Obama Sr arrived back in Kenya in 1964 and went to visit her but told her he hadn’t found a place to live yet or a job so she remained in the village. She finally learned of Ruth after Obama Sr’s car accident in 1971 when she met Ruth at the hospital and asked who she was. She must not be too bright considering that! Obama Sr returns home in 1964 and she doesn’t wonder why he hasn’t come for her after finding a place to live?
I don’t plan to watch the freak show or any of the infomercials selling coins, flags, shirts, hats, or anything with that douche bag’s face on it. The enemies of America are laughing their rear ends off at the stupidity of the American people.
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