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Bush on border agents: 'I'm not talking pardons'
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | January 12, 2009 | Chelsea Schilling

Posted on 01/13/2009 2:06:15 AM PST by Man50D

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To: All; Man50D

Contact VP Cheney, and ask him to get Pres. Bush to at least commute the sentences of Ramos and Compean:

vice_president@whitehouse.gov

I think Cheney is more astute about the problems we will have if our border patrol agents will be afraid to do their jobs, if Ramos and Compean are not released. I reminded Cheney of the known terrorists who have sneaked across the border (including the Mexican border).


61 posted on 01/13/2009 3:03:24 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Man50D

Jorge Bush

The Open Borders Puppet


62 posted on 01/13/2009 3:15:48 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: caver

There IS no ‘covering up’ a crime when a crime hasn’t been committed.


63 posted on 01/13/2009 3:17:56 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: raybbr; XenaLee; caver; wolfcreek
"...the worst thing was the use of gun laws designed to punish criminals that were never meant to be use against law enforcement agents..."

In the 70s, cops were widely supported in their shootings—however questionable.

When Governor Bob Graham appointed Janet Reno in charge of the 11th Circuit Court of the State of Florida, she immediately prosecuted a City of Miami cop who chased after—then finally shooting and killing—a kid climbing a chain link fence out of his reach. The officer's name was Daoud. (Or Daud).

She impaneled a Grand Jury and forced a trial, finding him guilty. It was a wake-up call for all of us in law enforcement. For better or worse, we've been stuck with that mindset for forty years.

Another case of hers, known as the "Round Table Restaurant Shooting", involved a City of Coral Gables officer who shotgunned to death the City's own informant as the informant tried to leave. I don't recall that the Grand Jury went Reno's way, but times had definitely changed by then.

The 'Gables officer was of Egyptian origin. Daud may have been Lebanese.

"...Some of us don't see shooting an invader in the butt as a crime..."

I don't either, but the job of a peace officer requires that shootings need to be justified.

Their "defense team" could have invented a perfectly good response for courtroom purposes: alternatively, charges might not have gotten past a Federal Grand Jury anyway.

"...I think they should have been given medals for trying to repel an invader from a foreign country...But, I guess you don't care that they were trying to protect you and your family.

I do care, but they should have left the crime scene unchanged—as they've been instructed to do. Trying to get away with what they perceived as an error was, in itself, an error.

"...So they have to spend years and years in prison..."

It's their first offense.

A message has been sent to other bilingual officers who might possibly be considering changing a crime scene under duress. A throw-down handgun, for example, may still be perceived as a get-out-of-jail-free card. (Some may be foreign-born, and unclear on US laws).

They changed the location of their cartridge cases, which would have changed their locations for a crime scene reconstruction by investigators.

In many jurisdictions, their jail time would be perceived as too long, but this is a Federal offense, which are like "the old days" for terms of incarceration.

I don't see them serving those full terms.

64 posted on 01/13/2009 3:27:02 PM PST by Does so (Your Honor, there is too much evidence against my client for him to get a fair trial.)
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To: angkor

Americans ***can’t afford*** to take the “job that others aren’t willing to do.”

The only reason illegals can afford to take these jobs is because they collect cash ‘under the table’, pay no taxes, and between the men and their wives and their anchor babies, they can have multiple purchased identities from which to obtain multiple (where there is an anchor baby, LEGAL) Federal and State benefits.

But we’ll never hear OBL politicians like Bush(s) admit it.


65 posted on 01/13/2009 3:27:56 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: Mamzelle
W delivers his latest snub to his base

On the contrary. His base isn't Conservatives. It is the socialists who support illegal immigration.
66 posted on 01/13/2009 4:43:53 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: AuntB
Yes, it’s stunning how many are still willing to sell this country out for cheap labor or ethnic reasons.

It goes beyond cheap labor and ethnicity. Their true cause is to replace democracy with socialism.
67 posted on 01/13/2009 4:45:40 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Travis McGee; raybbr; dennisw; Man50D; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; ntnychik; potlatch; devolve; ...

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68 posted on 01/13/2009 5:42:08 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP

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Illegal alien and Smuggler SIL

La Raza nephew

Cokehead niece


69 posted on 01/13/2009 5:54:42 PM PST by devolve ( ____"hussein the creepy" -- Evan Thomas - Nudesweek ____)
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To: Man50D

Man, is he stubborn. Apparently, he doesn’t watch AMW (America’s Most Wanted). Just about every week they feature an illegal who has murdered, raped, etc. and is fugitive. These, indeed, are jobs American citizens do not want to do, but don’t want done to us either. However, I am wasting my breath.


70 posted on 01/13/2009 6:09:49 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God help us)
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To: Does so
It wasn’t helpful that they interfered with a crime scene—which is illegal—and it was their own scene.

This is a major source of confusion. Compean was the only one of the two agents that picked up his brass. Obviously, the prosecution didn't think the crime scene was important because they never did any forensic analysis of the crime scene nor did they bother to recover any of the brass that was still left at the crime scene.

71 posted on 01/13/2009 6:13:19 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: Kimberly GG

>>>>>The only reason illegals can afford to take these jobs is because they collect cash ‘under the table’, pay no taxes.... anchor babies .... multiple purchased identities ... multiple Federal and State benefits.<<<<<<

Of course. Absolutely right.

And don’t forget that those stolen American taxpayer monies are repatriated back to Mexico, Guatemala, etc. to buy farms, homes, and land at 1/10th the cost of living here in the U.S.A.

That’s a prime reason illegals are willing to compete against American workers at 1/2 the normalized 1980 - 2006 wage rate.

Quite simply, they can afford it.


72 posted on 01/13/2009 6:30:22 PM PST by angkor ("All you could hope for ...in the world's most august deliberative body." - Baldwin on Franken)
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To: Man50D

You’re right. I keep trying to tell myself it isn’t so and give them the benefit of the the doubt that they’re only corrupt and incompetent.


73 posted on 01/13/2009 6:40:07 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: Man50D

This is horrible.


74 posted on 01/13/2009 7:27:55 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Man50D

No more Bushes. Ever.


75 posted on 01/13/2009 9:11:28 PM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: raybbr
"I think they should have been given medals for trying to repel an invader from a foreign country."

I agree 100% with what you said.

76 posted on 01/13/2009 9:13:46 PM PST by Katarina (My wonderful America going socialist breaks my heart.)
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To: Man50D

I guess that settles the question in my mind of Bush is a bad person, or just a bad president.


77 posted on 01/15/2009 8:40:21 AM PST by MNDude
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To: Man50D

If he doesn’t forgive those two agents I will NOT forgive him for that one.
That would be a major blemish on his Presidency IMO.


78 posted on 01/15/2009 8:42:03 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Gondring
We have rising unemployment and extension of unemployment benefits, and you claim that we don't have enough workers? Maybe you should learn a little economics.

Yes, even before our high unemployment we had millions of lazy ass Americans on welfare who should have been doing those jobs. Someone should point out to Bush that if his Comprehensive Immigration Bill had passed, we'd be looking at benefits to all those illegals. As it is now they're going home. Millions of taxpayer dollars were saved because of us mean heartless bastards not caving to your foolish idea. See Bush, it's just as we told you, we didn't need to round up millions and deport them.

79 posted on 01/15/2009 9:01:51 PM PST by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: Does so; Ajnin

The obstruction of justice conviction was overturned by the Fifth Circuit.


80 posted on 01/15/2009 9:07:56 PM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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