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To: Sgt_Schultze

Global warming exists—If you go back as far to the ancient Ice Age.
However, the idea that the planet is somehow being subjected to a radical change in climate from man made activity is ridiculous, unfounded, unprovable and flies in the face of the traditional rules of scientific hypotheseis and theory.
It’s disgusting to “grunt” level scientists (like myself) that so many high profile scientists would sell-out and embrace this climate change garbage.
Good call Sgt Schultze!


17 posted on 01/09/2009 7:47:39 AM PST by 07Jack
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To: 07Jack
If someone assessed our lives at retirement based on what we did in only the 5 years before retirement, they might have a skewed opinion of how we got there and what sacrifices and pain we endured on the way. This whole political storm over AGW is based on some arbitrary start date and a few less than reliable temperature measurements that go back only 150 years - just a tick on the Earth's timescale. You're right, if we measure from some colder period, we can in fact deduce warming. But why not go back further?

A more honest and accurate case could be made if we were to take our original models back to day 1 in Earth's existence. I think the understanding is that the planet then was inhospitably hot and filthy. It was certainly much hotter and less livable than where we are today. A trendline based at that point would show a planet that is cooling and becoming cleaner.

18 posted on 01/09/2009 8:04:25 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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