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To: cothrige
You are so all over the map, it's barely worth the effort...

No one's "throwing around" the epithet of anti-Semitic. My charge is that Buchanan is definitely an anti-Semite, and since you can't see this despite quotes spanning 30 years, my suspicion is that you are too. This doesn't undermine other good things and causes he's stood for and supported, but it still makes him a brash idiot when addressing the Jews as a whole

Does defending the indefensible come naturally to you, or did you have to work at it after raping common sense? Anyone... anyone who still thinks Pat Buchanan isn't anti-Semitic (or at the absolute very least, anti-Israel... which I will not delineate between) is seriously in need of some soul searching

90 posted on 01/10/2009 7:11:50 PM PST by swordfishtrombone
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To: swordfishtrombone
You are wasting your time. Paleoconservatives are stuck in grivence politics and won't act rationally. They will not honestly define antisemetism or ct accordingly, because to doso would be to choose to expunge some, or to make antisemetism non-issue.

Buchanan does not like Israel. He despises Nazi hunters more than SS members. He is stuck in the 1930s.

91 posted on 01/10/2009 7:32:25 PM PST by rmlew (The loyal opposition to a regime dedicated to overthrowing the Constitution are accomplices.)
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To: swordfishtrombone
No one's "throwing around" the epithet of anti-Semitic. My charge is that Buchanan is definitely an anti-Semite, and since you can't see this despite quotes spanning 30 years, my suspicion is that you are too.

Good thing you don't throw this charge around.

And you do have quotes, neatly excised from all context, though you cannot understand them in any case. They say the opposite of what you think they do, and by making these absurd claims you only advertise your own shortcomings. Since nobody here has shown where Pat Buchanan has actually said that the Jews are to be hated or that he does in fact hate them there is, of course, nothing to be seen at all. Only a semi-literate cretin can make the leap that not agreeing with Israel's political activity or positions is synonymous with anti-semitism. And your "suspicion" about me puts the proof to the "veracity" of your charges.

Does defending the indefensible come naturally to you, or did you have to work at it after raping common sense?

I have defended nothing but sensibility and reality. And if the "sense" you use is "common" then the world really is in trouble.

Anyone... anyone who still thinks Pat Buchanan isn't anti-Semitic (or at the absolute very least, anti-Israel... which I will not delineate between) is seriously in need of some soul searching

Of course you will not "delineate between" these ideas. You could not delineate either of them if you tried, and that is obvious. Based on your "understanding" of the quotes given by Pat Buchanan it is clear that you read like many people swing hammers. Your understanding of anti-semitism, and why other than automatically agreeing with a country in the Middle East in politics is not such, is likely to be as clear as mud. We shouldn't trouble ourselves. And I am used to this "thinking," as I have made clear. The left uses it all the time. Not supporting the politics of homosexuals is homophobia. Not supporting the politics of blacks is racism. It goes on and on. Don't worry, you are in wonderful company.

As for my position, and my soul for that matter, perhaps you need not worry. In this case you didn't even need to sift 30 years of quotes to jump to mischaracterization, but did it with five or six posts in one thread on a public web forum. You are clearly improving.

92 posted on 01/10/2009 8:42:11 PM PST by cothrige (Ego vero Evangelio non crederem, ni si me catholicae Ecclesiae commoveret auctoritas.)
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