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It Breaks My Heart To See Israel's Stupidity (Tikkun Stupid Dopehead Alert - MEGABARF)
Sunday Times ^ | 1/04/2009 | Michael Lerner

Posted on 01/04/2009 4:13:33 PM PST by goldstategop

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To: Anti-Bubba182
Lerner is vermin.

The basic problem with Islam is that it hates...how is that statement different.

Killing the enemy is enough...we are not required to be infected with its disease.

41 posted on 01/04/2009 4:41:18 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Death to Hamas!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Saint Paul was once, shall we say, determined in his defense of his faith. He wasn't vermin...he was an opportunity!
God still loves Lerner...and we (whether Jew or Gentile) are commanded to love our enemies.

Good points! The Prayer for Absolution in Evening Prayer (1928 Book of Common Prayer) begins thus:

"ALMIGHTY God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who desireth not the death of a sinner, but rather that he may turn from his wickedness and live, ... "
Something I have to remind myself of from time to time...
42 posted on 01/04/2009 4:45:12 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
...how is that statement different.

Killing the enemy is enough...we are not required to be infected with its disease.

Said the man with the, "(Death to Hamas!)" tagline. Take a flying leap.

43 posted on 01/04/2009 4:46:09 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: goldstategop

Thanks for this informative post, but consider the irony: that we FReepers don’t get paid a dime for having at least half a brain while posting common sense, while this certified idiot Lerner is wined, dined, and paid a king’s ransom for spouting pure buffalo plop, decade after decade.


44 posted on 01/04/2009 4:47:10 PM PST by elcid1970 (O Muslim! My cartridges are dipped in pig grease.)
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To: Stepan12

Good article and list of self hating Jews but, I hate it when they put music tracks on the sites.


45 posted on 01/04/2009 4:49:13 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Israel really has it tough, with hamas hiding behind their slaves (women and children)

Real men don't hide behind women and children!

Heaven help Israel!

46 posted on 01/04/2009 4:49:53 PM PST by mckenzie7 ( ANNA THE RETIREE)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
What idiot invented this concept of proportionate/disproportionate response.

The idiot that was losing of course.

47 posted on 01/04/2009 4:50:33 PM PST by DejaJude (Proud denizen of the fighting fringe and an Arizona zealot.)
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To: goldstategop
OK, you shoot rockets at us ... we run and hide. The UN condemns us (Israel) for attacking the rocket bases .... typical ....
48 posted on 01/04/2009 4:51:03 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

It seems to me that the “proportionate” response would be the one most likely to silence Hamas for good. Why peck and peck and hope for a victory? Just get it done. More innocent humans living in peace will be the ultimate result. Dragging out warfare just prolongs everyone’s suffering.

Hamas needs to get to the point where they resolve not to attack Israel any more. Just like Islam needs to get to that point with the western civilizations.


49 posted on 01/04/2009 4:52:50 PM PST by Marie2 (Hunkered down until something better comes along)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Love could be described as sending these scum to their dreamed of paradise where their perpetual virgins and pleasant young boys dwell.


50 posted on 01/04/2009 4:54:37 PM PST by mckenzie7 ( ANNA THE RETIREE)
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To: tbpiper
Hamas' stated goal is to destroy Israel. A 'proportionate response' would be for Israel to destroy Hamas.

You are 100% correct.

51 posted on 01/04/2009 4:54:57 PM PST by DejaJude (Proud denizen of the fighting fringe and an Arizona zealot.)
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To: goldstategop

He sounds schizophrenic.

http://www.havelshouseofhistory.com/Lerner,%20Rabbi%20Michael.jpg

Rabbi Lerner, author of The Left Hand of God: Taking Our Country Back from the Religious Right

at Berkeley. Michael Lerner began his graduate school career in philosophy in 1964

Lerner’s academic work focused on ethical theory and social philosophy

became a national leader of the anti-war movement

Lerner was sent to Terminal Island Federal penitentiary where he served several months in prison, at which time J. Edgar Hoover described him as “one of the most dangerous criminals in America.”

Michael Lerner returned to Berkeley after his conviction had been overturned, and he completed a Ph.D. at Berkeley in 1972. His son Akiba was born to him and his partner Theirrie Cook in October, 1971.

in 1982 he became Principal Investigator for a multi-million dollar research project funded by the National Institute of Mental Health and focused on work and family life.

Some of the attention of the ILMH focused on the question of why so many working people were attracted to the politics of Ronald Reagan and the Right, even though the Right was pursuing policies that were in such dramatic contrast with their economic interests. And what they learned over the course of many years of research with over ten thousand middle income working people was the following: that there was a spiritual crisis in American society and that the Right was speaking to that crisis, albeit with a set of distorted solutions. What they were discovering was what Lerner would later call “the hunger for meaning” or “spiritual needs” which were every bit as important as material needs.

His ideas received national attention when Hillary Clinton adopted his notion of “the politics of meaning” and called for the country to respond to these ideas. Lerner was described by the Washington Post as “the guru of the White House,” and he became the subject of intense national debate.

The Clintons invited Lerner to the signing of the Oslo Accord in 1993, but Lerner soon found that though the Clintons were using his words, they were actually following policies that were antithetical to his core ideas. While he was being denounced daily on Rush Limbaugh’s radio shows for being the central idea person in the Clinton White House, Lerner himself felt that the Clintons’ approach had abandoned any serious ethical/spiritual focus and was being shaped by their own fears rather than by the vision of a meaning-oriented politics.

Lerner became very controversial among the denizens of the Jewish establishment and in the Jewish media because of the role he has taken in trying to build bridges of understanding between Jews and Palestinians.

In 2003, Lerner was barred from speaking at one of the major demonstrations opposing the invasion of Iraq because Lerner criticized the anti-Semitism that he perceived in the way that criticisms were being made of Israel. Yet Lerner has received a steady supply of death threats from others in the Jewish world who believe he is anti-Israel.

his stand (in TIKKUN magazine) which calls for Israel to respect Palestinian human rights and end the Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza.

Lerner resides in Berkeley, California with his wife Rabbi Debora Kohn Lerner.

http://tinyurl.com/89raus


52 posted on 01/04/2009 4:55:33 PM PST by kcvl
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To: goldstategop
And in return for the captured Israeli soldier Gilad Schalit, it asks for the release of 1,000 Palestinians imprisoned in Israel.

That's disproportionate!
53 posted on 01/04/2009 4:56:14 PM PST by The people have spoken
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
What idiot invented this concept of proportionate/disproportionate response.

It seems to be the bastard son of LBJ's "escalation" strategy for VietNam. That didn't work out too well either.

54 posted on 01/04/2009 5:06:16 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Said the man with the, "(Death to Hamas!)" tagline. Take a flying leap.

Just back from that flying leap...fun!

Hatred is a disease...and it will eat your soul!

Defending oneself is a necessity!

BTW, Hamas is an ideology...not a person.

55 posted on 01/04/2009 5:21:06 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Death to Hamas!)
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To: mckenzie7; Chieftain

That’s the Arab way! Disgusting culture.
And we have to hear the Libs yapping about cultural relativism ..ugh!

The Libs yap and yap when affirmative action doesn’t make it here...but then ignore the disgusting treatment of women and children in Muzzie countries.

And now we have to deal with Islamofascists demanding wearing a Hajib when they get their drivers’ license photos.

And I see some in Wallmart with wearing pants from china with their silly scarves on their heads! I wish Wallmart would ban the wearing of scarves in their superstores! ha. can you see the Wallmart Greeter saying, “welocme to Wallmart, please take off your scarf.” ha. ha.


56 posted on 01/04/2009 5:22:41 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (FREE BLAGO !!! LET HIM SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER !!!)
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To: goldstategop
But the kind of response matters. Killing 500 Palestinians and wounding 2,000 others (at the time of writing) is disproportionate. How very absurd and pedestrian. It's war--if you want to stop the enemy, the most effective way of accomplishing it is to kill them. War doesn't work when tallied on a scorecard.
57 posted on 01/04/2009 5:24:08 PM PST by The Toad
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To: Anti-Bubba182

BTW, don’t take my comment as an insult...I am a much worse person than you. Really!


58 posted on 01/04/2009 5:28:59 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Death to Hamas!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
I believe it.
59 posted on 01/04/2009 5:32:07 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: goldstategop

some days i think the left is stupid,
some days i think they are evil
and most i think both.
gosh, i hate those @#%#$.


60 posted on 01/04/2009 5:44:16 PM PST by genghis
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