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Saving Lives with Coal
Townhall.com ^ | January 3, 2009 | Paul Driessen

Posted on 01/03/2009 5:33:48 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/03/2009 5:33:48 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

A good summary of coal’s benefits.


2 posted on 01/03/2009 5:43:40 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Kaslin
Good article with good info.

But what's this”

“save millions of lives.”

That's Obammie the Commie-type rhetoric. If we can't prove that coal plants cause disease, then we can't prove that clean-coal is ‘saving lives,’ especially by the millions.

But, like I said, otherwise an excellent article.

3 posted on 01/03/2009 6:18:17 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Abortion has become little more than the New Left's execution of political prisoners.)
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To: Kaslin
How exactly will Texas replace 36% of its electricity with renewable energy?

Why didn't “T Boone Pickins” or whatever his countrified name is, mention that in the ads for the wind-farms he's invested billions in?

4 posted on 01/03/2009 6:22:23 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Abortion has become little more than the New Left's execution of political prisoners.)
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The article is a good summary of coal’s benefits, and the rhetorical request for intellectual honesty from the environmentalists is well founded. In the end, however, the author does nothing more than beat a strawman’s dying horse to death. Anyone paying even a bit of attention knows how vital coal is to our energy security. But why does that make the Sierra Club’s criticism of the “clean coal” advertising campaign dishonest? It doesn’t. Indeed, after calling the Sierra Club lying liars who lie alot, there is no discussion of whether the coal industry’s clean coal campaign is deceiving—which it often is. In its current campaign the industry discusses zero emission, geosequestration technology in one sentence, and then states clean coal is already being utilized. But, in this bait and switch, clean coal doesn’t really mean the sequestration technology which it highlights, but instead clean coal means nothing more than “better than 1970 standards.” You have to read the fine print to learn that FutureGen is in trouble and geosequestration, pre or post combustion, on any serious scale is still a decade away. By focusing only on one side’s lack of candor, the article becomes no more useful then the propaganda which it criticizes. When it comes to full disclosure, I wish the author would take his own advise. I am a conservative, I think coal is a key part of our future, but I am sick of these half honest attacks by “conservative” shills of big coal.


5 posted on 01/03/2009 6:29:31 AM PST by melstew
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To: Kaslin

Bernie Cohen, a health physicist at the University of Pittsburgh, in his book, “Before It’s Too Late”, makes a strong case for nuclear power, based in part on health benefits of nuclear versus coal. But he stresses that the health benefits of coal fired power vastly outweigh the costs.

Even though hard to quantify, the bottom line is that not only are we more properous, but live longer, healthier lives thanks to the taken-for-granted miracle of modern electricity.


6 posted on 01/03/2009 6:39:40 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for Necro-Americans.)
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To: melstew

Ya gotta die from something. I would rather die warm and well lighted ,breathing what little soot the coal plant puts out ,than in the dark freezing my buns off waiting for the wind to blow, or the clouds to move away from my solar panel.


7 posted on 01/03/2009 6:41:49 AM PST by Venturer
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The liberal philosophy: Never let science get in the way of one of our loony dogmas.


8 posted on 01/03/2009 6:48:15 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Kaslin

The liberal philosophy: Never let science get in the way of one of our loony dogmas.


9 posted on 01/03/2009 6:48:20 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Venturer

Agree. But when deciding on the role of coal, as compared to nuclear for example, it annoys me when someone tries to sell me a magic elixir. If the point of the article was coal is dirty , but we still need it to keep the lights on, and preserve standard of living...I would have no issue.


10 posted on 01/03/2009 6:50:50 AM PST by melstew
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; Miss Marple; Smokin' Joe; thackney

bump


11 posted on 01/03/2009 7:13:31 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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To: melstew

I think the clean coal campaign means much more than improvements over 1970s standards. However, I agree that the campaign is somewhat deceptive. I suppose the campaign is trying to counteract the lies of the other side with its own overstatements. The other side is despicable. The other side wants us to freeze and drastically reduce our consumption. I save the venom for the other side.


12 posted on 01/03/2009 7:18:51 AM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"A good summary of coal’s benefits."

The use of coal to generate electricity should be phased out and replaced by nuclear fission plants, which are even more reliable. The coal production thus freed up should be used to replace imported oil through the production of "coal liquids". The eventual goal should be to have all our electricity generated by nuclear.

13 posted on 01/03/2009 7:19:17 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Kaslin
The coal plants in China produce 70 or 80 times the pollution per plant. Our plants are far cleaner, but they are hard to get licensed.
14 posted on 01/03/2009 7:21:19 AM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Da Coyote

And the dogma is as ever changing as the wind.


15 posted on 01/03/2009 7:29:47 AM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: Kaslin

My first request is for Al Gore to be put onto a wind-powered plane and sent from Washington DC to San Francisco to prove the viability of same.

I want Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Schumer, et al to accompany him.
Thank you, Santa.


16 posted on 01/03/2009 7:41:26 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: melstew

Conservatives don’t use “Big” as a prefix for an industry to demonize it.


17 posted on 01/03/2009 7:55:11 AM PST by Bryanw92
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“Coal generates half of all US electricity” and does it at a price that is affordable. The green schemes all cost more and are only affordable with government subsidies. Subsidies are your tax dollars diverted to that rather than necessary public services.


18 posted on 01/03/2009 8:23:08 AM PST by RicocheT
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Most do support wind energy – and it must also play a role.

Why? If it's not cost-effective, why must it play a role?

19 posted on 01/03/2009 8:54:14 AM PST by Onelifetogive (Let's get to altering or abolishing!)
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None of this makes any difference. It’s just reality and the envirowhackos can’t handle that. Because coal is plentiful in the US, making for less expensive electricity, IT MUST GO.


20 posted on 01/03/2009 9:12:11 AM PST by penowa
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