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Harold Pinter passes: the death of a great artist who hated us
Pajamas Media ^ | December 26 | Roger L. Simon

Posted on 12/26/2008 3:42:15 PM PST by AJKauf

there was never a question in my mind that his Nobel Prize for Literature was deserved, although I cringed when he received it because I knew he would seize the opportunity to make ugly and propagandistic statements. Of course, I was right about that - you didn’t have to be Nostradamus. Pinter attacked the US government as if it were the modern avatar of the Third Reich. He used his Nobel Prize acceptance speech, in the words of the Washington Post, to denounce the U.S. invasion of Iraq and to call British prime minister Tony Blair “a deluded idiot.”

What we are facing here, I submit, is what we might call the Ezra Pound Perplex or, alternatively, the Leni Riefenstahl Dilemma? Forget the Nobel Prize, which has indeed become a racket, assuming it was ever anything else. Pinter’s death raises a more important question. What do we do with great artists whose political ideas are anathema to us? How do we regard their work?..

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To: AJKauf

A legend in his own mind, IOW, not worth a bucket of warm p-ss.


21 posted on 12/26/2008 4:32:42 PM PST by Waco (Oath? What oath?)
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To: AJKauf

GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH.


22 posted on 12/26/2008 4:33:58 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: AJKauf
Pinter was a very fashionable and influential playwright, but I can't say that I ever liked his miserable plays. Here he is as Krapp, in the appropriately named "Krapp's Last Tape"

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23 posted on 12/26/2008 4:37:32 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: GOPJ

“A LEFTIST winning the Nobel Prize? Wow!”
“Has a conservative ever won?”

A few

Rudyard Kipling for literature 1907.

Winston Churchill for literature in 1953.

Friedrich A. von Hayek for Economics 1974.

Milton Friedman for Economics 1976.

Hayek wrote this amusing essay “Why I am not a Conservative”

http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/hayek.htm

He called himself a “liberal”, by which he meant laissez faire 19th century liberal. What he called socialist, we now call Liberal. And what Hayek calls “conservative” we call Bush!


24 posted on 12/26/2008 4:46:50 PM PST by devere
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To: AJKauf

So - another collectivist has assumed room temperature. Wonderful!


25 posted on 12/26/2008 4:49:05 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Cicero

He was great as Sir Thomas Bertram in the movie “Mansfield Park.” A miserable, cruel, bullying, mean character. Perfect casting!


26 posted on 12/26/2008 4:53:02 PM PST by Cecily
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To: devere

“Closely connected with this is the usual attitude of the conservative to democracy. I have made it clear earlier that I do not regard majority rule as an end but merely as a means, or perhaps even as the least evil of those forms of government from which we have to choose. But I believe that the conservatives deceive themselves when they blame the evils of our time on democracy. The chief evil is unlimited government, and nobody is qualified to wield unlimited power.[8] The powers which modern democracy possesses would be even more intolerable in the hands of some small elite.”

“Admittedly, it was only when power came into the hands of the majority that further limitations of the power of government was thought unnecessary. In this sense democracy and unlimited government are connected. But it is not democracy but unlimited government that is objectionable, and I do not see why the people should not learn to limit the scope of majority rule as well as that of any other form of government. At any rate, the advantages of democracy as a method of peaceful change and of political education seem to be so great compared with those of any other system that I can have no sympathy with the antidemocratic strain of conservatism. It is not who governs but what government is entitled to do that seems to me the essential problem.”

Hayek was a great thinker!


27 posted on 12/26/2008 5:14:51 PM PST by devere
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To: AJKauf

Adios Pinter! A rabid America-hating leftie whose plays and writings will be forgotten in ten years.


28 posted on 12/26/2008 5:41:27 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: AJKauf
I read The Dumb Waiter because I felt "Oh, it's Pinter, better be familiar with it." When I was done, I thought, "Well, that was unpleasant."

And that is the sum of my thoughts on Pinter, his Nobel, his politics, his life, and his death.

29 posted on 12/26/2008 5:58:38 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (History repeats itself because human nature is static.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Pull their “artistic grants” and see if their work will sell on it’s own merits.

Heh heh heh...

30 posted on 12/26/2008 5:59:37 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (History repeats itself because human nature is static.)
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To: Cecily
He was great as Sir Thomas Bertram in the movie “Mansfield Park.” A miserable, cruel, bullying, mean character. Perfect casting!

Actually, it was a travesty. In the book, Sir Thomas a generous and kind man who simply has a tendency to be so formal and intimidating that it doesn't come across at first. That movie so bastardized the novel I was foaming at the mouth by the time it was over. I haven't seen such a rape of literature since Hollywood gave "The Scarlet Letter" a happy ending, and Susan Sarandon made "Little Women's" Marmee a swaggering feminist.

31 posted on 12/26/2008 6:08:25 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (History repeats itself because human nature is static.)
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To: AJKauf
A humorous riff on Pinter from Mark Steyn here:

http://www.steynonline.com/content/view/803/30/

32 posted on 12/26/2008 6:14:36 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: AJKauf

Another finger-painter dead. Don’t know if I’ll remember this.

Probably not. Maybe I’ll write a note on the etch-a-sketch.


33 posted on 12/26/2008 6:36:01 PM PST by sergeantdave (Michigan is a bigger mistake than your state.)
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To: AJKauf
Pinter was a raving leftie and his plays were depressing.
Don't forget when he got his Nobel he used the forum to vent his hatred at Bush and the US.
I was just thinking the other while watching “The Man Who Came To Dinner”, where are the great playwrights, the answer, we don't have any.
Say what you will but guys like Moss Hart, George Kauffman, etc, really wrote great stuff back in the day and I don't think there are any modern people who write nearly as well or witty.
34 posted on 12/26/2008 6:39:52 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: AJKauf
At long last and for all time, Mr. Pinter has become one with his trademark stage-dialogue direction:
(pause)

35 posted on 12/26/2008 6:54:38 PM PST by Tenniel2 ("When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one" -- Edmund Burke)
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To: reg45

reg45 wrote:
Perhaps he is sharing his cell in hell with his buddy Saddam Hussein

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It would be better if the HELL for Pinter was being in a cell with Sadam victims.


36 posted on 12/26/2008 9:33:52 PM PST by aaCharley
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To: AJKauf

Hot enough for you, Pinter?


37 posted on 12/26/2008 9:53:03 PM PST by Jeremiah2
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To: AJKauf
Movie freak,Roger Simon thinks Harold Pinter was a great Artist.

As an “Art” Critic, Roger Simon has now been elevated to the ranks of those who think Andres Serrano's “Piss Christ” is meritorious art and those who proclaimed the Waffen SS dressed better than G.I. Joe.

I would not be surprised if Roger would praise the water colors of country churches by the young artist Adolf Hitler as” incredibly promising”.

When are we going to fight back?

38 posted on 12/27/2008 5:11:30 AM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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