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1 posted on 12/25/2008 7:30:40 AM PST by thatjoeguy
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Constitution = obama snickers


51 posted on 12/25/2008 8:57:40 AM PST by Vaduz
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Now I'm not a Constitutional Lawyer... Here goes but please don't shoot me :)

As long as you are not a lawyer and don't go hunting with Dick Cheney, not much can happen...

52 posted on 12/25/2008 8:58:30 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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Just repeal the income tax amendment. That money is the source of all corruption in the federal government.


56 posted on 12/25/2008 9:01:59 AM PST by Blado (It's a dirty stinking rotten alternate universe but it's OUR dirty stinking rotten alternate u...)
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How about you and me and you and you and you and you and you and everyone else within sight of this post, pick a few States where an incumbent is an unfaithful representative, and agree to go to that State and work in the Primary to get someone else elected in the screwup’s district? We could share motel rooms for a week, say, and canvass and hand out flyers and call voters, working with the local Republicans. If we had maybe a dozen per group and we stayed in inexpensive motels and worked long hours for a new Candidate, we might just be able to remove some of the less productive members of Congress.

I’m retired, it’d be worth it to try to unseat a Kennedy, Kerry, Frank, Reid, Byrd, Dodd, etc.


59 posted on 12/25/2008 9:19:32 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Cultural conditions, not gun laws, are the most important factors in a nation's crime rate.)
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My main problem with Term Limits is, you will get Politicians pushing things in their final terms that they would never dare propose if they had to face the voters again.

I think instead of term limits, we should adopt recall measures, especially for Senators, where either a certain percentage of voters signatures or a super majority in the state legislator can call for an immediate vote on whether or not the said Congressman or Senator should be fired.

Think of how many would have been recalled during the bail outs! Might make them think twice before they go all kids in a candy store on us again.

62 posted on 12/25/2008 9:35:20 AM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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Great idea I would add a few things but it is good. Only problem the Royal 100 Club will not vote for this nor will the left wing in the so called house of the people. They both violate the Constitution on a daily basis and could care less for “We The People”. One way to do it would be for a great push by the people for a state by state Constitution amendment. Two Thirds of the states must vote for a Constitutional Convention to call for Amendments but the only problem with this is that the Left would kill all of the freedoms we have in the present Constitution so the Conventions must be for one thing only stop the house and senate from their Royal carp.
63 posted on 12/25/2008 9:39:29 AM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the Royal 100 Club)
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The term limits amendment has a lot of following.

But, better than the term limits would be: making sure that the electorate, all of it, is well informed on the issues, at least the most important ones, and that that same electorate have some very basic understanding of how our type of democracy works, and that they should be very informed about each of the candidates, and where each one of those candidates stands on all the issues.

If we can’t get the whole electorate to be so well-informed, then perhaps only those with enough knowledge about our form of government, and each of the candidates and the issues, should be allowed to vote.

At least then, we could be sure that the dummies and the ignorant and the ill-informed and brain-washed wouldn’t be destroying our country.

Term limits are good, but, a well-informed and idiot-proof election process would be more preferable. Well-informed people tend to make better decisions, and one of those decisions would be throwing out those that are harmful to our democracy and our well-being, which of course includes career politicians.


75 posted on 12/25/2008 10:29:23 AM PST by adorno
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Suggest you check into U.S. Congressional Documents and Debates, 1774 - 1875 from the Library of Congress ^.

Additionally, SuiJuris Law Forums ^ has a thread with more detail of its loss from our system. (Links will open in a new window)

The Original Thirteenth Article of Amendment To The Constitution For The United States

"If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them."

The original 13th Amendment would have resolved most of the problems you seem to address, but likely introduce some new ones - such as a landed bureaucracy of feather-bedded union flunkies worse than we have today. Somehow I do think that would be preferable, as the worst decision of the US supreme Court would likely not have been allowed, that being the 1886 decision in a tax case that violated the current 14th Amendment; Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific R. Co., 118 U.S. 394 ^. Without that, most of the lobbyists and third-party non-profits would have no standing.

Don't worry, be happy; Resident Buttock Obummer's gonna change it!

78 posted on 12/25/2008 10:46:47 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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No more Constitutional Amendments.


79 posted on 12/25/2008 10:54:37 AM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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We could have term limits with the very next primary election. I say primary because in a general election I don’t want to vote for a liberal.

So you have to impose term limits in a primary election.

I would love to see term limitations but don’t think it’s gonna happen any time soon. But voters can do it anyway.

Sad part is, about 98% of the incumbents get re-elected. Even if they’ve been convicted of a crime (usually) and even if they’re dead (because if they’re elected, the governor has the right to appoint someone from the same party.

While we’re at fixing things, we ought to ban electing people who are convicted felons, or who are dead.


81 posted on 12/25/2008 11:24:29 AM PST by quintr
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We are a nation of too many laws. Every law is trying to fix something. More laws probably won’t work.


84 posted on 12/25/2008 11:35:24 AM PST by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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This is perfect and how it should be. They would never go for it. It would make it too fair and the ones that were in would be in for the good of the country and to serve her, not for financial gain. It is time the citizens begin to DEMAND some of these things. We need to stop the train wreck our govt. is becoming
89 posted on 12/25/2008 7:46:04 PM PST by KellyM37 (Barack Obama's mental illness..........PATHOLOGICAL NARCISSIST... show us the medical records)
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How about this as a new Constitutional Amendment?

The scope of the Federal Government shall be reset to what it was in 1795. Changes thereafter will be made in the Constitutionally prescribed manner.
96 posted on 12/27/2008 9:20:51 AM PST by aruanan
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