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Ice melting across globe at accelerating rate, NASA says (except, uh, the ANTARCTIC!)
CNN ^ | 12/17/2008 | Emanuella Grinberg

Posted on 12/17/2008 6:10:48 AM PST by PreciousLiberty

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To: PreciousLiberty

This was discussed yesterday and although the amount of ice mentioned in the article sounds huge it represents only a tiny fraction of 1% of the total ice. Wish I could remember the number.


21 posted on 12/17/2008 6:32:10 AM PST by saganite
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To: saganite

That would amount to ice in an area that is 10 feet deep by 200 miles by 200 miles melting.

Not a very big chunk. Sounds really large but when you do the math it isn’t a big area at all.


22 posted on 12/17/2008 6:32:47 AM PST by HD1200
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To: PreciousLiberty
How is that socialistic outfit doing with their "O" rings and tiles?

Burnt up any astronauts lately?

23 posted on 12/17/2008 6:33:45 AM PST by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: PreciousLiberty

The Little Ice Age ended in the mid-1800s. Many of the modern climate records date from that period, or shortly thereafter, with the predictable result that today’s temperatures are indeed some of the warmest on record, but only because the records starting being kept as the Northern Hemisphere was coming out of an Ice Age. A normal person might also suspect that shrinkage in glaciers and ice cover would be a natural result of the return to warmer weather. Greenland had a fairly mild climate up until the Little Ice Age (thus the name), but now a return to an earlier, more temperate climate is viewed as a cause for alarm.


24 posted on 12/17/2008 6:34:17 AM PST by Stevenc131
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To: HD1200

“That would amount to ice in an area that is 10 feet deep by 200 miles by 200 miles melting.

Not a very big chunk. Sounds really large but when you do the math it isn’t a big area at all.”

I “did the math” on the “2 trillion tons of ice melt” article yesterday. 2 trillion tons represents about 0.0074% of the world’s landlocked ice. The claim also ignores any accretion elsewhere. lol!


25 posted on 12/17/2008 6:34:30 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty

2 trillion tons of ice is only a cube that is 7.6 miles x 7.6 miles x 7.6 miles.

That ain’t squat!


26 posted on 12/17/2008 6:34:40 AM PST by avacado
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To: HD1200

10 feet deep by 200 miles by 200 miles melting.
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Sounds like the thaw in Upstate New York every year! ;^)


27 posted on 12/17/2008 6:35:38 AM PST by saganite
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To: PreciousLiberty

If you see the word NASA in any story about temperature/global warming/ice melting, but you don’t see the name James Hansen then you know if it a covert attempt by Hansen to get NASA into the fray again without raising the suspicions of critics.

NASA is no longer an honest broker and hasn’t been for a long time. Bush needs to fire James Hansen before he leaves office of this religious zealot will cause trillions of dollars in loss to our economy by corrupting the science behind all decisions the Feds make.

Any press release from NASA should be immediate ignored or attacked because there is no need for NASA to be promoting any information. Scientists don’t put out press releases about the daily temperature unless they are lying about the data to make a point.


28 posted on 12/17/2008 6:36:24 AM PST by bpjam (GOP is 3 - 0 in elections after Nov 4th. You Can Smell the Rally !!!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

NASA can just go Juan de Fuca itself!


29 posted on 12/17/2008 6:45:44 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: PreciousLiberty
In the past five years, Greenland has lost between 150 gigatons and 160 gigatons each year, (one gigaton equals one billion tons) or enough to raise global sea levels about .5 mm per year, said Zwally, who will also present his findings at the conference this week.

PANIC! At the rate of .5 mm/yr, that'll be 50mm by this time next century. That's ALMOST TWO WHOLE INCHES!

30 posted on 12/17/2008 6:48:07 AM PST by wbill
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To: PreciousLiberty

Hey PreciousLiberty, check out this article: http://redgreenandblue.org/2008/11/15/schwarzenegger-orders-california-to-prepare-for-sea-level-rise/

.5mm a year, that’s what, 600 years before it rises a foot, and there’s no increase or new ice. What do you think they’re after in California? Control over the water supply?


31 posted on 12/17/2008 6:48:34 AM PST by nominal
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To: PreciousLiberty

Not to give the socialists another idea but I wonder how uneven ice mass changes affect Earth’s wobble. This would influence local climates. Using snow making technology we could probably change Earth’s wobble if we wanted to.


32 posted on 12/17/2008 6:48:59 AM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: meandog

I understand your skepticism, but they are talking about land-based ice (Antarctica), so it’s true that ice loss = sea level rise.


33 posted on 12/17/2008 6:49:05 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: PreciousLiberty
The good news is that any attempts to “correct” global warming would be incompetent and inadequate. The bad news is that that incompetency and inadequacy would cost trillions of dollars.

Then the good news again for the leftists is that it's not about "solving" anything. It's about redistributing those trillions of dollars.

34 posted on 12/17/2008 6:50:48 AM PST by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Have the gains in the Antarctic exceeded the reported losses elsewhere?


35 posted on 12/17/2008 6:50:58 AM PST by Gene Eric
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To: PreciousLiberty

Hansen’s really going all out to shill for the new Kyoto agreement that’s being crafted in Poland.


36 posted on 12/17/2008 7:06:02 AM PST by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Lies... all lies.

LLS


37 posted on 12/17/2008 7:51:25 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! so sue me!)
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To: brownsfan
If there are things to be done in space, let the free market drive it.

What free market?

Haven't you hear?

"I've abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system to make sure the economy doesn't collapse."---George Bush

Do you think that Zero and the liberal congress is going to squander this opportunity to nationalize as much of the 'free market' as possible?

38 posted on 12/18/2008 5:55:33 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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“Do you think that Zero and the liberal congress is going to squander this opportunity to nationalize as much of the ‘free market’ as possible?”

You’re right. Then the only option is to let NASA die. I’m good with that.


39 posted on 12/18/2008 5:57:56 AM PST by brownsfan (We are sooooo screwed.)
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To: xcamel

Just damn. It sure as hell won’t melt off my front walkway.

Could we please just throw these liars in the pokey soon?


40 posted on 12/18/2008 6:01:52 AM PST by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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