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NEW IDEAS FOR OBAMA LAWSUITS !

Posted on 12/09/2008 9:31:34 PM PST by rocco55

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To: rocco55

Oh goody ... another newbie with a birth certificate vanity.


21 posted on 12/10/2008 7:00:06 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: rocco55
Most legal scholars familiar with these cases (including Berg and many others) seem to agree that Barry Soetoro is Mr. Obama's "REAL, LEGAL" name !

From what I've seen, I have to agree.

The paper trail created by our birth certificates, school records, marriage licenses, etc. is what proves beyond a doubt we are legal 'persons'.

Zero changed is name in college after the age of 18. The question is, did he ever LEGALLY change his name from Soetoro after adoption by his Indonesian stepfather.

IMHO, he is an illegal- returned from Indonesia on a foreign student visa and never left or became naturalized.

22 posted on 12/10/2008 7:07:28 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am not a political, collective, administrative, public, corporate or legal entity)
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To: rocco55
There is a copy of BHO's Selective Service Registration on the net -
DebbieSchlussel.com
It looks about as genuine as his COLB.

To: Alan Keyes - KEEP UP THE FIGHT !
23 posted on 12/10/2008 7:29:40 AM PST by Visceral (The more I learn, the less I know)
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To: rocco55

Get a new lawyer - cause you cant be President.

Your example of a Canadian born father, with premature Canadian birth by an American mother - may indeed make you a US citizen.

But NOT a Natural Born US Citizen.


24 posted on 12/10/2008 10:00:34 AM PST by rossalgondamer
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To: Kadric

I think the Supremes are waiting for the right case. I hope I am right.


25 posted on 12/10/2008 12:50:38 PM PST by Marie2 (Everything the left does has the effect and intent of destroying the traditional family.)
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To: 70th Division
Why not? The Democrats have been doing this for years. why not fight back a bit instead of rolling over all the time.

I thought what they were doing is what we are fighting against....not a model for our behavior.
26 posted on 12/10/2008 3:33:40 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw

Sorry I believe in winning. We are on the RIGHT side. If you are playing football and the other guy kicks you in the jewels, well you hit him in the throat. But I am Scotish.


27 posted on 12/10/2008 4:00:43 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: cc2k

FYI

http://www.theobamafile.com/NaturalBornCitizenChart.htm


28 posted on 12/11/2008 3:30:41 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Beckwith
So, there's the precedents that apply to define "natural born citizen."

Great! You're part way there.

All you need now is someone who meets all of these conditions:

Good luck with all that.

I'm extremely skeptical that anyone can make it all the way with this issue.

I am more confident that laws can be enacted on the state and federal level to require proper documentation of qualifications, preferably at the state level, before putting candidates' names on the ballots. At least there you have a shot at preventing this in the future, possibly limiting the alleged non-"natural born citizen" to a single term because he might not qualify for the ballot in 2012.

29 posted on 12/12/2008 7:10:18 AM PST by cc2k
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To: cc2k

So, you’ve quit. There’s a lot here like you.


30 posted on 12/12/2008 10:02:26 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Beckwith
I wouldn't say I've quit. I just don't see anyone coming forward with anything that looks like it could win.

I will say this, I'm very uncomfortable with a court ordering Obama to produce a birth certificate at this time and disqualifying him based on that. That kind of action would be legislating from the bench. At this time, there is no law anywhere that requires a candidate for President of the United States to provide a birth certificate. No other President has ever provided a birth certificate. And I don't like judicial activism. I don't ever want judges just making up new laws on a whim.

Now, if all of the conditions I listed above can be met, I'm all for going the route of the courts, and doing it now. Although, it would have been better for that information to have been brought forward much earlier in the process. In the real world, I don't think anything will be done at this point in this election cycle.

That's why I think the best approach, in the absence of irrefutable proof that Obama isn't a natural born citizen, is to pursue state legislation in every state (or at least many states) to require future candidates to provide documentation of their qualifications for the office before listing them on the ballot.

31 posted on 12/13/2008 5:52:08 AM PST by cc2k
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