Gun owners dodge tax on ammunition (PA)

Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | November 28, 2008 | Brad Bumsted

[neverdem]

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/images/video/2008_pdfs/GX-BulletsStates-eds-11-28.pdf

I haven't looked.

[Pearls Before Swine]

WIth serial number tracing, a bad guy could pick up some used brass out of a range dumptser, reload, and put the first blame on someone else. Great.

[JrsyJack]

I have a better thought that protects law abiding gun owners from having their rights restricted...put criminals in jail when they use a gun in committing a felony. Put parolees back in jail with an extra 10 years if they are caught with a gun while on parole. Existing laws are effective if enforced, taking away everyone's rights is ineffective and shortsighted.

Every politician in every state should be made to understand that supporting this type of legislation is harmful to their political future.

[OneWingedShark]

>WIth serial number tracing, a bad guy could pick up some used brass out of a range dumptser, reload, and put the first blame on someone else. Great.

Even better if you could get the brass after a politician for this measure fired it... or from a police-range!

[pray4liberty]

Every politician in every state should be made to understand that supporting this type of legislation is harmful to their political future.

They should, but they don't care. They do whatever they want to do, and will become even more bold now that the liberal Democrats are in charge.

Yup, "peace and safety" for them, all right. They have armed bodyguards.

[panaxanax]

Good post, like always.....thanks.

[neverdem]

N.C. ACORN Proposes Stricter Ammunition Laws

All the "new tone" and bipartisan crap has just emboldened the left. ACORN should have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

[Mogollon]

Pennsylvania gun owners dodged a bullet when lawmakers failed to enact legislation that would have levied a 5-cent tax on each shell and required encoding ammunition with serial numbers and registering those numbers in a statewide database.

Considering the mood of the country right now, maybe Pennsyslvania law makers dodged a bullet by not enacting anti-2nd amendment legislation.

[facedown]

It's part of a growing effort nationally to target ammunition as one way to stem gun violence circumvent the Constitution.

[JrsyJack]

Every major part in most cars is encoded with a VIN number that comes from the factory yet auto theft continues unabated in places such as Phila, Chicago, NY, Detroit. Now representatives from these very same places want to give it another try with ammo.

These types of "solutions" are truly only an admission that there are no solutions to illegal gun use; instead they want to criminalize gun ownership.

[OneWingedShark]

>I have a better thought that protects law abiding gun owners from having their rights restricted...
>put criminals in jail when they use a gun in committing a felony. Put parolees back in jail with
>an extra 10 years if they are caught with a gun while on parole.

Nope, what we do is promote every sentence of more than 30 years to the death-sentence and carry it out after giving them one appeal (which would have a time-limit). THEN, we apply capital punishment to voter/election-fraud and prevent the “recount” crap like in Minnesota. Third, we make SURE, that rape and murder are capital offenses.

Lastly, we should bring back corporal punishment. Drug use, instead of being a big old fine, would be a beating. Embezzling and such, the perp would have to repay twice the entire amount... etc.

[JrsyJack]

I agree, 30, 50, 100 lashes with a cane (like in Singapore or Indonesia I think) is a better deterrent than 5 years in a prison, cheaper too.

[Squantos]

Bump for later read.....

[Clint Williams]

promote every sentence of more than 30 years to the death-sentence

Isn't having a "living constitution" a wonderful thing?

[TheOgre]

I bought it cheap and stacked it deep.

[Clint Williams]

Or did you mean “mandatory minimum” sentence?

[Clint Williams]

I have a better thought that protects law abiding gun owners from having their rights restricted...

Nice thought. Now sell it to all the gun owners who vote for these folks.

[Doug Loss]

I guarantee that if they ever pass something like this it will be challenged on the state level as unconstitutional. The PA Constitution states in Article 1:

"Right to Bear Arms
Section 21.
The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned."

and:

"Reservation of Powers in People
Section 25.
To guard against the transgressions of the high powers which we have delegated, we declare that everything in this article is excepted out of the general powers of government and shall forever remain inviolate."

[OneWingedShark]

>Or did you mean “mandatory minimum” sentence?

No, I mean it is a “cruel and unusual punishment” to cause someone to spend so many years of their life in a debt to society AND rob them of the ability to live in that society!
{Remember the Shawshank Redemption?}

Better instead to realize that if the person’s crime is enough to rob them of a life, then it is better to give them death.

It is, in addition to being more kind, cheaper than keeping them alive for 30, 40, 50+ years.

[Trajan88]

5-cent tax... good gosh... what is the avg. cost for shells?

Typical taxation without representation... glad it hasn't been implemented.

Government sucks.