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Russian Scholar Predicts Economic Crisis Will Rip America Apart (Barf alert)
Fox News ^ | 11-25-08

Posted on 11/25/2008 10:07:11 PM PST by aggie21

A Russian scholar is predicting that the United States' current financial crisis will lead to the breakup of the country.

Igor Panarin, a professor at the diplomatic academy of Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, told the newspaper Izvestia on Monday that America will break apart into six regions following the crisis.

"Dissatisfaction is growing, and it is only being held back at the moment by the elections, and the hope that [President-elect] Obama can work miracles," according to a translation by Bloomberg. "But when spring comes, it will be clear that there are no miracles."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; communism; igorpanarin; russia; russianthreat; sovietunion
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The prof would like that wouldnt he?
1 posted on 11/25/2008 10:07:11 PM PST by aggie21
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To: aggie21

Let’s start with San Fransicko. They can go be a sanctuary soverign country on their own without federal taxpayers funding it all.


2 posted on 11/25/2008 10:14:06 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: aggie21

the russians don’t believe in the One? blasphemy!


3 posted on 11/25/2008 10:16:24 PM PST by ari-freedom (No more candidates from 2008!)
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To: aggie21

if you give amnesty with nothing being done about the evil twin sister of chain migration and drive through amnesty babies (far from Mexico is guilty of the latter) on top of the present economy then it will break for sure and really will divide the country worse. I don’t know about these breaks he is saying. And I doubt it will split into actual breaks but the polarization is there. And if not for economy, it would be another close Presidential race like it was in 2000. Only the economy pushed the winner through on this race. The economy is how the independents voted. There is no other mandate of change for anything else. Zogby was right about his after election poll. That’s why some of the state races were almost evenly divided. Also, seems that Pelosi and Reed (these two are definiate extremists) are on a far more extreme leftist agenda than O is. But when it comes to votes and combining all three, it doesn’t matter who is more left or more right than the other but who has the votes. The political pay offs with these bailouts are gross and divisive and won’t stop the downturn. They need to get real.


4 posted on 11/25/2008 10:18:16 PM PST by volslover
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To: All

Well now, I’m not a Russian and apparently he doesn’t understand Americans.

We’re shopping here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2138260/posts


5 posted on 11/25/2008 10:26:34 PM PST by Cindy
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To: aggie21

Gee, I just saw that Russia’s economics were in far worse shape than ours. That if you believe what you read.

Wishful thinking on the prof part, imo.


6 posted on 11/25/2008 10:31:01 PM PST by berdie
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To: berdie

I read a longer version of this article elsewhere, and I thought it was an amazing display of ignorance of American culture and history. If this guy is a professor, maybe their educational system is falling apart more quickly than our own.


8 posted on 11/25/2008 11:25:56 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: berdie
I don't think that this nation will fall either but it is not impossible. We need to remember that the USSR dissolved rather quickly and without our nation or the Soviet's really understanding what was coming. Basically the soviets went bankrupt and half of their nation just kind of walked away and there was nothing that the old USSR could do to stop them.
The biggest threat to our nation is going broke while having high unemployment of highly educated workers and then having the feds make a grab for our guns. Effective revolts and revolutions are almost always led by highly educated unemployed people. The common man may fight these wars but they do not lead or inspire them. If all those things come about at the same time things are going to get very messy very quickly. I know for sure that Texas retained the right to leave the USA under certain conditions when they were accepted as a state. If the economy is going to hell and socialism is initiated forcefully Obama style Texas can legally and just might take that option if pushed on personal rights and the gun issue at the same time. If Texas leads the way many states may try to follow. Having served a many years in the military and having close relatives serving today I can make another prediction with a high degree of certainty. The vast majority of our military members are very conservative and they will not pull the trigger on their own countrymen if a revolt starts. If pushed to do so many will take their weapons and training with them to the other side. With the right situation this could all come apart very rapidly.
9 posted on 11/25/2008 11:27:05 PM PST by oldenuff2no (Retired AB ranger and damn proud of it!!! I served to support our constitution and our way of life.)
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To: aggie21

This guy’s name should be “Ignorant Panicski”.


10 posted on 11/25/2008 11:38:35 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: oldenuff2no
I suspect the Russians are doing a little more then just predicting the breakup of the US. The arrival of the Russian North Fleets Naval assets into the Caribbean demonstrates that they may be anticipating the break up. We also have Biden stating that Obambi will have to make some difficult decisions early in his term.
11 posted on 11/25/2008 11:59:21 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: oldenuff2no

Barf alert? I’m no’ pukin’. As a wise, old Scot, Alexander Tytler, is reputed to have written,
“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”


12 posted on 11/26/2008 12:21:04 AM PST by flowerplough (Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. -O, Jan '08)
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To: aggie21

Americans are more prone to take things into their own hands.

How many Russians died in the revolution to get ride of the USSR?

How many died when Lenin rose to power?

Russians are sheep.

Always have been.


13 posted on 11/26/2008 12:40:12 AM PST by NoLibZone (Obams success proves that Ayers type violence is respected by the left. Let's do likewise.)
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To: aggie21

I don’t know about six, but I would like to see two regions. We can try an experiment. We’ll let the leftists run their country along the socialist lines they love so well. We’ll run ours along the lines of the free-market, stict constructionist constitutional lines. After about five years, millions of the socialists would be banging on the hundred foot high electrified fence separating the two regions clamoring to get into our country. Five years of a Hugo Chavez/Joe Stalin-style five year plan ought to cure most leftist idiots of their dream of a socialist eden.


14 posted on 11/26/2008 2:43:43 AM PST by driftless2
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To: aggie21
If the dollar becomes worthless then the US will most certainly dissolve, just as the Soviet Union did. It would dissolve because it will be unable to pay enough to keep personnel on the job.

However, I would imagine that the result would be 50 individual states becoming nations, since each already has a state government in place. Maybe afterwards groups of those states might federate.

It's more likely we'll just default on our national debts. That would seem to be more in keeping with the sorry state our national character.

15 posted on 11/26/2008 2:59:31 AM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: aggie21

This guy is probably a Lenin Peace prize winner in Economics.


16 posted on 11/26/2008 5:18:17 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: aggie21
Panarin predicts the U.S. will split into: the Pacific, the South, Texas, the Atlantic coast, the central states and the northern states, and hinted that Alaska could be Russia's for the taking.
17 posted on 11/26/2008 6:34:22 AM PST by laotzu
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To: driftless2; Calpernia; The Duke

>I don’t know about six, but I would like to see two regions.<

Agenda 21 calls for the regions.

>>A companion work by the same authors, Mihajlo Mesarovic and Eduard Pestel, entitled Regionalized and Adaptive Model of the Global World System, introduced and described a system of regionalization which divided the globe into 10 regions, each with its own hierarchical system of sub-regions.43<<
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1758057/posts?page=30#30


18 posted on 11/26/2008 7:21:33 AM PST by B4Ranch (("In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." FDR)
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To: hedgetrimmer; driftless2

hedgetrimmer, are the Russians reading my posts?

“A Euro Dollar, an Amero Dollar, an Asian Yuan, a South American Peso and the Russian Ruble financial systems is what I am expecting when they are done wringing us out to dry. Five or six separate but similar money systems that will smoothly interact. The IMF will accept any or all of them.

Devaluation of the US Dollar will ease the swap over to the new, stronger Amero Dollar. Maybe 10 or 15 to 1.

It will certainly open the doors to a New World Order. Agenda 21 will become a common phrase in the media.

Then Obama will push for passage of the LOST Treaty and the Kyoto Accord in Congress. The wussy Republican legislators jumped onto the NAFTA Agreement, they’ll bend easily enough to pass these Bills so that the United Nations will become a permanent fixture in our government.

Still worried about an terrorist attack? There’s no need to fear, you can be thankful that your Socialist government is here to protect you. That document we once called the U.S. Constitution will be put into the file cabinet along with the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights and forgotten.

7 posted on 11/19/2008 7:44:20 PM PST by B4Ranch ((”In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.” FDR) “


19 posted on 11/26/2008 7:23:04 AM PST by B4Ranch (("In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." FDR)
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To: volslover

>if you give amnesty with nothing being done about the evil twin sister of chain migration and drive through amnesty babies (far from Mexico is guilty of the latter) on top of the present economy then it will break for sure and really will divide the country worse.<

Agenda 21 calls for amnesty to further the easy movement of workers from region to region as the economy demands change. Mechanized crop harvesting will be tightly controlled because you must have jobs for the people.


20 posted on 11/26/2008 7:28:09 AM PST by B4Ranch (("In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." FDR)
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