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3 from polygamist sect turn themselves in
star-telegram.com ^ | Tue, Nov. 25, 2008 | By MICHELLE ROBERTS - AP

Posted on 11/25/2008 12:50:34 PM PST by metmom

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To: Admin Moderator
All material from Star-telegram.com must be excerpted.

Is there a list on FR that shows the media sources that require this?

21 posted on 11/26/2008 4:45:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

As long as you don’t hijack the thread into a discussion of Mormon dogma and keep the topic SPECIFICALLY on FLDS, you can post about FLDS until your fingers are sprained.


22 posted on 11/26/2008 5:04:35 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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As long as you don’t hijack the thread into a discussion of Mormon dogma and keep the topic SPECIFICALLY on FLDS, you can post about FLDS until your fingers are sprained.

So if I post about SPECIFIC FLDS 'dogma' that is the same as LDS 'dogma'; THEN what?

23 posted on 11/26/2008 5:12:17 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
So if I post about SPECIFIC FLDS 'dogma' that is the same as LDS 'dogma'; THEN what?

Then I would suggest you take it to the Religion Forum. You ain't hijacking this thread.

24 posted on 11/26/2008 5:13:09 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator; metmom; muawiyah; Brad's Gramma; Mr. Silverback; neverdem; Godzilla; ...

Heads-up regarding deleted post #4: I’ll have to quit thinking posts that are removed have abusive or obscene comments, won’t I??

And the post actually seems to have disappeared from my “pings” list! Over 10 years around here, and I never knew that happened - I thought pings were permanent bookmarks.

For everyone’s information: My nicely formatted quote of two sentences outlined the round-robin marriages of these 4 or 5 men, who swapped their under-17-year-old daughters (one was just 12 years-old) in one night of “weddings.” Again, “Yuck”!


25 posted on 11/26/2008 6:09:42 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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Free Republic is under legal advisement to allow only a brief excerpt and link for any material from Star-Telegram. Your removed post was in violation of Free Republic’s copyright restrictions because you posted more material from the excerpted Star-Telegram article.


26 posted on 11/26/2008 6:29:55 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Elsie; Admin Moderator
Is there a list on FR that shows the media sources that require this?

Yes. Do a keyword search on *links* and you'll get an old thread.

AM, could that thread be updated and linked somewhere where people can see it and use it when posting? I've found it very helpful, but still am uncertain about using it because it's so old.

27 posted on 11/26/2008 6:33:09 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; hocndoc
The copyright restrictions thread is an updated thread, updated by Jim Robinson, by the Lead Moderator and by Admin Moderators. Frankly we've given that link out hundreds of times, we've asked nicely that people follow the copyright guidelines and keep that list bookmarked, that we decided a few years ago to also include it on our Admin Moderator profile page.

The copyright restrictions, if followed by each member of Free Republic, are designed to prevent Jim Robinson from being sued as he has been in the past, and also to keep Free Republic from being shut down.

Thanks for asking.

Here's our profile page link: Admin Moderator Profile Page

Here's the Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints

28 posted on 11/26/2008 6:50:03 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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Yea! Thank you. I’ll be bookmarking that myself.

Could someone consider providing the link somewhere in the *Post* section of FR so that when people are actually posting a thread, there would be something they’d be more likely to see?

Or maybe on a side bar, like the daily threads or breaking news sections?

I know there will always be some who miss it, but it might help.


29 posted on 11/26/2008 7:02:15 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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I don’t recall that any women or children were arrested or jailed.

Metmom is correct. The women were not arrested, they were kidnapped and held against their will. They were stripped, examined and even observed while giving birth, at which time the baby was taken from the mother.

I think most of us would prefer to be arrested and jailed, instead of being denied basic constitutional rights. Metmom on the other hand is proud of the way that the CPS and police stripped the women of their constitutional rights.

30 posted on 11/26/2008 8:35:41 AM PST by LeGrande
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The copyright restrictions,....

WOW!

There’s a BUNCH of them!


31 posted on 11/26/2008 10:56:08 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LeGrande; metmom

I truly do not believe that anyone is happy about what happened at YFZ ranch. I do believe that something needed to be done to protect children from being married off at young ages. I don’t think anyone likes the thought of a 12 yr old married. Do you? My biggest problem with the FLDS & other such groups is that & the fact that I don’t want to pay for a man to have multi wives & large families that everyone’s tax dollars support. And then there is the fact of giving wives & children to other men when Jeffs tossed the men out. I have a problem with tossing male teenagers out so the old men get the young girls. I don’t understand how fathers get to know each child & spend quality time when there are 30 children either. As for Metmom being happy about what happened I think you are dead wrong. What did you want to happen? Should we have looked the other way because the FLDS was once a part of the LDS church? I would think the LDS would have tried to stop the FLDS long ago. However I am not Mormon so I see things differently I suppose.


32 posted on 11/26/2008 11:06:28 AM PST by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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The alternative is that those women and children continued to live a life of sexual slavery for the kinky jollies of those perverts.

Some people are so worried about the rights of the pedophiles that they discount that fact that the women and children have rights as well. The Constitution did make slavery illegal. What’s the point of making something illegal if the government is prohibited from dealing with it?

I seriously doubt that these human shaped pieces of uh, well, you get the idea, would have just decided to turn themselves in as their civic duty had the raid not happened.

The cult would have continued, with girls getting raped and boys being kicked out on the streets, women and children taken from their husbands and fathers and reassigned at the whim of whatever pervert decided to play god that day. I cannot imagine a more horrendous situation to be in. Being a sexual slave for a man with delusions of godhood and threatened with eternal damnation for not cheerfully complying is not my idea of a good time.


33 posted on 11/26/2008 12:14:56 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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“They were stripped, examined and even observed while giving birth, at which time the baby was taken from the mother.”

Says who?

Oh BTW: Have you ever been arrested?


34 posted on 11/26/2008 12:20:41 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: LeGrande
The women were not arrested, they were kidnapped and held against their will. They were stripped, examined and even observed while giving birth, at which time the baby was taken from the mother.

Sources? When were they stripped? Which baby was taken from it's mother? I don't recall any of those accusations ever being substantiated.

I recall that the women were free to leave. They were adults and not arrested. If they were stripped and not arrested, where are the lawsuits against the police department and CPS?

Can you tell me what woman in a hospital isn't observed by the medical staff while giving birth? It insures the safety of the mother and baby should something go wrong.

I think most of us would prefer to be arrested and jailed, instead of being denied basic constitutional rights.

That's exactly what was happening with the cultists. The men were denying the women and children their basic Constitutional rights. Someone with the authority to do so needed to act to restore them to those women and children. Permitting them to live a life of sexual slavery for the perverted pleasure of men with delusions of godhood is unconscionable.

I fail to see why someone would object to them being rescued from the situation considering that slavery was prohibited by the Constitution.

35 posted on 11/26/2008 12:23:56 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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“They were just arrested, detained and held against their will.”

The children were taken into *protective custody*. Some of the mothers choose to stay with their children (or other's children)

36 posted on 11/26/2008 12:26:46 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: metmom
Being a sexual slave for a man with delusions of godhood and threatened with eternal damnation for not cheerfully complying is not my idea of a good time.

Nor mine & I surely would not be cheerful about it. I would be more violent I would say but then I am not brainwashed ... I wonder about the comments I have read where some people find this acceptable or would rather not know what is going on. Like ignorance is bliss... That scares me. What else are they going to push aside until it smacks them in their faces?

37 posted on 11/26/2008 1:27:20 PM PST by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: metmom
Sources? When were they stripped? Which baby was taken from it's mother? I don't recall any of those accusations ever being substantiated.

Then you failed to read the case the Texas Supreme court ruled on. I can't help it if you are intentionally ignorant.

I recall that the women were free to leave. They were adults and not arrested. If they were stripped and not arrested, where are the lawsuits against the police department and CPS?

Then you recall wrong. The CPS claimed that the women were children and Wards of the State. Again you need to read the Supreme court decision. The civil lawsuits will start after the Criminal cases are complete.

Can you tell me what woman in a hospital isn't observed by the medical staff while giving birth? It insures the safety of the mother and baby should something go wrong.

Did you have a CPS official watching when you gave birth? Assuming your name isn't a lie? Has the CPS stripped and examined you for sexual abuse? Inquiring minds want to know?

The men were denying the women and children their basic Constitutional rights.

If they were then they should be prosecuted. Does that justify the State kidnapping adult women? Do two wrongs make a right?

I fail to see why someone would object to them being rescued from the situation considering that slavery was prohibited by the Constitution.

Are you a slave to your husband?

38 posted on 11/26/2008 2:11:48 PM PST by LeGrande
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“They were stripped, examined and even observed while giving birth, at which time the baby was taken from the mother.”

Says who?

Says the CPS. They examined everyone that they took for sexual abuse. That involves stripping, taking photographs and physical penetration of all the girls and women.

Have you ever been raped?

39 posted on 11/26/2008 2:16:58 PM PST by LeGrande
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Those women (other than the fact that many were young) were duped into a religion that IMO, borders on Sharia and in turn followed a false prophet.

CPS is, no doubt, not equipped to handle such lunacy. That we can agree on.

How you like it if you daddy and momma gave you to your Uncle or grandfather? That is the question that must be answered.

40 posted on 11/26/2008 2:34:52 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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