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To: Maine Mariner

You cannot be a natural born citizen, if you were not born on US soil. Children born on overseas military bases are not natural born citizens. Current State Department policy reads: “Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. deplomatic or consular facilites are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.”
The US Constitution Article ll section 1. It says “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constituion, shall be eligible to the Office of President; niether shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fouteen Years a Resident within the United States.” Many people get this all wrong too. It says “No Person except a natural born Citizen” - “or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,”. Many people misread this line and think that any citizen can be President, but what it was saying is either a natural born Citizen OR any citizen who was alive at the time the Constitution was adopted. Unless you know of any candidates that are 256 years old, the President must be a Natural Born Citizen.


83 posted on 11/23/2008 9:04:56 PM PST by classified
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To: classified

Okay-but what is a natural born citizen? Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona when it was still a territory. McCain was born in the Pamana Canal Zone.


84 posted on 11/23/2008 9:08:13 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: classified
Current State Department policy reads: “Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. deplomatic or consular facilites are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.”

You are drawing an incorrect conclusion here. The State Department is only making it clear that being born on a US base or embassy abroad is not, in of itself, a basis for citizenship. If it was, then the kids of Iraqi women who are born in US bases in the Green Zone (a somewhat common occurence these days) could run for President. However, a kid born abroad to an American citizen or citizens obtains US citizenship, from birth, based on the parents' citizenship.

122 posted on 11/24/2008 11:13:40 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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