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Hawaiian officials admit withholding Obama's original BC
Isreal Insider ^ | November 1, 2008

Posted on 11/23/2008 6:30:41 PM PST by Red Steel

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To: muawiyah

You do have to actually be BORN IN the US to be POTUS, though...


41 posted on 11/23/2008 7:16:12 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: library user
November 18? How did it go?

11/18/08 - Motion to dismiss granted.

Court Minutes from 11/18

42 posted on 11/23/2008 7:16:54 PM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: Red Steel
'Hawaiian officials admit withholding Obama's original BC'

'Yup! They wanted something to hold as security until he left the country,' according to a Luau caterer. He still owed the hotel for some broken furniture and a bar bill from a previous visit, but the hotel was gracious enough to wave the bill for damages when they found out he was going to be president and wanted to stay at the hotel in the presidential suite this time around. And I thought the Shriners were bad! Sheesh!'

43 posted on 11/23/2008 7:17:17 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: classified

Mit Romney’s father had to withdraw from running for President because of this very law. He was born out of the U.S. even thugh both of his parents were U.S. citizens.
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George Romney never withdrew...


44 posted on 11/23/2008 7:18:37 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: FocusNexus

FWIW, here is the text from the Hawaii Revised Statutes:

[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]

This is a big deal - if 0bama was born in Kenya, it would have been no problem to obtain a Hawaii birth certificate.


45 posted on 11/23/2008 7:18:39 PM PST by KAUAIBOUND (Hawaii - paradise infested with left-wing cockroaches and centipedes)
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To: Red Steel; Elsie; greyfoxx39

You know, the more I think about it, maybe Obama was born in Hawaii.

The problem might just be with the Indonesian citizenship rules.

No one can be that stupid in the Internet Age to keep such a secret secret.

However, maybe he started his political career before this fact of the immediacy of the Internet dawned on him.

Whatever the matter is, Obama’s strategy is to STAY QUIET on the subject.

They figure if we look like crackpots, the Supreme Court will not take the case on. This is a strategy — stay quiet and cool.

While we burn up the web with furious questions.

BUT I’ll betcha, they are BITING THEIR NAILS to the quick over the Keyes’ lawsuit.

Their silence is a deafening as their fear about this is frightening.


46 posted on 11/23/2008 7:18:57 PM PST by IreneE ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy." - my paraphrase of Thomas Aquinas)
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To: gunnyg

Interesting...... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1


47 posted on 11/23/2008 7:19:02 PM PST by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: classified

Mit Romney’s father had to withdraw from running for President because of this very law. He was born out of the U.S. even thugh both of his parents were U.S. citizens.
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George Romney was beaten by Barry Goldwater for the nomination in 1964...

and then by Nixon in 1968....

his birth place was never an obstruction to his running for the office of POTUS

It was never challenged...


48 posted on 11/23/2008 7:22:44 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Red Steel
And yet Obama claimed in his memoir Dreams from my Father that he had in his possession his birth certificate.

I certainly don't know the context of Od!psh!t's assertion in his memoir that his own BC was in his possession, but, without an ulterior motive, that is an odd assertion to make. It doesn't fall naturally into place.

Has any other memoir writer ever done likewise? I wonder.

49 posted on 11/23/2008 7:22:46 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: IreneE

Algore invented the internet...

I’m sure he can do something to make this all go away

;)


50 posted on 11/23/2008 7:24:08 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
Why? Once the status of children born abroa to American parents was established by law (several of which are identified in just this thread alone ~ and there are OTHERS by the carload), you don't have to be born in the USA ~ .

The particular law in effect at the time Obama appears to have been born served to prevent the return to the USA of out of wedlock children born to American girls sent abroad by their parents to Catholic or Orthodox convents. That left the control of those babies to church authorities.

The law was later changed.

There are undoubtedly some court cases that deal with such matters although I don't recall any Freepers digging them up.

51 posted on 11/23/2008 7:28:23 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: informavoracious
One look at what he’s done with California is all you need to know.

Reality check. We have Obama now, don't we. The most unqualified, empty suit, uber liberal with no record of any accomplishments. Anything is possible nowadays.

52 posted on 11/23/2008 7:29:08 PM PST by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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To: IreneE

Indonesia’s citizenship rules have NO BEARING on United States citizenship rules. Where there is question American law waits until the kid reaches the age of majority.


53 posted on 11/23/2008 7:30:46 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Tennessee Nana
Oh, I forgot...
You resigned form the Senate, didnt you...
Oh, well...
Looks like you might have to get a REAL job...

Maybe Hillary needs an office boy...

LOL!...ROFLPIMP!....too freakin' funny!
54 posted on 11/23/2008 7:31:09 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: muawiyah

1. Dad was born in Kenya, a British subject...

2. Mom was not older enough to claim him as an American BORN citizen...


55 posted on 11/23/2008 7:32:11 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: classified
"Naturalization Act of 1795 signed by George Washington states that a child born out of the country from 2 parents who are U.S. citizens is a Citizen of the U.S. but not a Natural Born Citizen, which makes that child ineligible to become President. Mit Romney’s father had to withdraw from running for President because of this very law. He was born out of the U.S. even thugh both of his parents were U.S. citizens."

Do you mean this Naturalization Act of 1795? It does not distinguish among citizens who are citizens at birth. There is no such language in the Act. [See section 3 "How children shall obtain citizenship through their parents".] The 1952 law, referenced above in an earlier post, is more pertinent. George Romney, Mitt Romney's father, was born in Mexico in 1907, but as the child of two US citizens he was by law a natural born citizen. The reason he withdrew from the race was because he alienated the Republican party with his position on the Vietnam War.

56 posted on 11/23/2008 7:32:44 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Law at the time said all she needed was 10 years residence in US with at least 5 years of it since she was 14.

If you look carefully that law was written under the assumption that the mother had been born to foreign born parents (British, Italian or Greek subjects), and that she, herself, might well have been born abroad.

That law has been changed. I'm guessing that if there's been any case law on the matter the girl won.

57 posted on 11/23/2008 7:36:28 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"There are undoubtedly some court cases that deal with such matters although I don't recall any Freepers digging them up. "

There are an number of referenced cases and a law timeline here.

58 posted on 11/23/2008 7:38:43 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: muawiyah

Nope, she was born in Kansas


59 posted on 11/23/2008 7:39:08 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: muawiyah

I forgot, Obama’s draft registration card also is a forgery.


60 posted on 11/23/2008 7:40:11 PM PST by IreneE ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy." - my paraphrase of Thomas Aquinas)
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