Posted on 11/19/2008 5:19:52 PM PST by Red Steel
I had to exit my car at 9:28 this morning. Quinn and Rose had just started discussing this item and the other lawsuits over BHO citizenship filed in multiple states. Just as they started, XM radio cut to WLW news. Does anyone here know if the topic resumed after the break? It didn’t make sense to me that this team of professionals didn’t seem to know the hard break was coming. Does this sound suspicious to anyone besides me?
bttt
no troll......just a realist....wanna bet six months from now this goes nowhere??
and you sound like a fool
SCOTUS is COMING!!!!
He is NOT the president elect. The election hasn’t happened yet. The members of the electoral college will meet at their respective state capitals on Dec 15. They will put their votes in the mail - to the president of the Senate. The votes will be opened in front of a joint session of congress (I think Jan 6). Only then will O be president elect....I just get tired of people saying the election is over,etc. I have no illusions here - if O gets pushed out, say hello to Biden or Pelosi or Clinton...but the constitutional requirements were meant to prevent divided loyalties - and he has divided loyalties. He has interfered in Kenyan politics already, on behalf of family members. See the problem he represents? What if a terrorist we are after takes refuge in Kenya (its right next to Somalia). Does this cloud O’s judgement. The pitfalls are endless. We can’t be expected to be the loyal opposition if we don’t know where his loyalties are.
ONE EXCELLENT TAKE-3300 WORDS+:
Four Questions For The Trojan Candidate
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/four-questions-for-the-trojan-candidate/#more-5183
November 16, 2008 by texasdarlin
We assume that in fact no one would dare to run for and claim the Presidency if he/she didnt meet the qualifications of the Constitution.
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By Dr. Kate, Guest Author
Obumpa
I’d had not heard that. Clearly, however, whatever objections were made to Bush’s qualifications they were specious as “qualifications” here has a highly technical meaning: it refers to those basic requirements for office set out by the Constitution, namely age and citizenship.
I’d also have to go back and check the procedure. My recollection was that it did not require both a Rep. and a Senator to object, but rather than one could start the process. But I may be recalling incorrectly.
Even if it takes one of each, that is at minimum two congresscritters that must be convinced sufficiently of a problem, or potential problem, to file a written, signed objection. Yes, this allows politics to play in the system, but it also means a citizen has about 600 chances to persuade someone on the basis of evidence.
The first hurdle will always be *evidence.* There has to be some basis beyond speculation. Then, even if there is evidence, there’s the political hurdle. That said, however, and in no way diminishing the impact of political blinders, it seems to me that if there were actually clear evidence that a President-elect is unqualified (either not a natural born citizen or not old enough to take office), you could get at least two congresscritters to agree that it needs to be checked out.
In a case such as this, good Lord, a congresscritter with a teeny doubt could call Obama himself and ask him if he wouldn’t mind showing him certain documents even in private.
P.S. What was the basis for the objection? Was it the President-elect’s qualifications or some other ground, such as the recount?
I've been around for many presidential election cycles ... the term president elect (except in the case of someone getting re-elected) is in play immediately after the results of November presidential ballot are announced. Now technically that might not be correct ... but it's assumed the new president (to be) has the electoral votes in the bag. It's a mere formality from that point on ...
You can say that again. Since the election they have all been mostly inane, irrelevant, and whistling in the wilderness trying to earn their reprieve from the fairness doctrine --
It's already at SCOTUS and on the mind of the POTUS. For anyone in Washington DC to claim ignorance of this issue at this point will be a prevarication beyond any sense of credulity. And let's understand something, if our elected/appointed leaders lose their credibility, then their administrations will be bankrupt in no time ---
“You can say that again. Since the election they have all been mostly inane, irrelevant, and whistling in the wilderness trying to earn their reprieve from the fairness doctrine — “
Yep, that’s the way I see it too.
OBJECTING TO THE ELECTORAL VOTE COUNT FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA -- (House of Representatives - January 06, 2001)
[Page: H30]
--- (Ms. WATERS asked and was given permission to address the House for 1 minute.)
Ms. WATERS. Mr. Speaker, let the RECORD show that on today, Saturday, January 6, I am present on the floor of the House of Representatives prepared to object to the electoral vote count for the State of Florida at the proceedings that will take place at 1 o'clock.
Let the RECORD show that the rules require all objections to be submitted in writing and signed by a Member of the House and a Member of the Senate. As of 11:00 today, I have not been able to identify any U.S. Senator prepared to sign any objections; therefore, all attempts to object may be denied. However, I am voicing my objections to the electoral votes submitted by Florida.
Mr. Speaker, I believe these electoral votes to be illegitimate and unrepresentative of the true popular vote in Florida. Vice President GORE is leading in popular votes in excess of 500,000 votes in this country, and all of Florida's vote recounts are not yet tabulated. The recounts will document that GORE won Florida, despite voter fraud, despite voter intimidation, despite the butterfly ballots, despite the criminal recording of ID numbers on absentee ballots. History will record what really took place in this election.
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