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Conversation cops step in to school students ('Hate Speech' monitors)
theglobeandmail.com ^ | November 19, 2008 | CARLY WEEKS

Posted on 11/19/2008 11:26:34 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

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To: dblshot

I doubt they would actually want to work. They want to
engage, or create, or some other activity that won’t
get hands dirty or work up sweat, or actually produce
something of value.


21 posted on 11/19/2008 11:53:43 AM PST by jusduat (wondering,questioning,searching)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Future Capos.

The spy branch of Obama’s Gestap . . . Civilian Security Force.


22 posted on 11/19/2008 12:00:28 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware of Obama's Reichstag Fire; Don't permit him to seize emergency powers.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Spies for the thought gestapo.


23 posted on 11/19/2008 12:06:05 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism = serious mental deficiency)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There are certain words I find offensive, and I don’t use them. My children don’t use them. But, private conversations should remain private.

That said, once I overheard people using offensive terms against me and my husband and children, and I confronted them personally. Then I just stopped associating with them.

But, appointed spies to monitor private conversations at a university? No thanks.

Just think, as the U.S. continues its slide, we’ll have nowhere to escape for freedom. Certainly not Canada.


24 posted on 11/19/2008 12:24:35 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Anima Mundi; ...

Just FYI, since it doesn’t affect the decision to homeschool.

I do see it in the cards for high schools before long.


25 posted on 11/19/2008 2:21:27 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“If you’re doing anything that’s interfering with what other people need to be doing, that’s not cool.”

Does that include ease dropping on other peoples conversations in order to censor them?


26 posted on 11/19/2008 3:00:05 PM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: N3WBI3

The globe and mail grossly misrepresented the program at hand here. It’s unfortunate that a well-researched and innovative program is being immediately rejected by the Queen’s community. I can understand that the idea of a stranger jumping into a conversation to lecture students on inclusionary practices sounds incredibly unrealistic, not to mention inappropriate, however I believe that it is inappropriate in a way for individuals who are not harshly affected by issues of discrimination to dismiss attempts to reduce it on campus. One of the most important components to modern racial theory is that you cannot fully understand the power of discrimination until you experience it first-hand.

The program is actually far less intrusive than as implied by the article, and is based on a University of Michigan initiative that was very effective when implemented. The program is less concerned with intruding on people’s conversations, and much more interested in sparking productive conversation and discussion regarding issues of discrimination. It also offers a focus on inter-group dynamics and encouraging people to question their beliefs, which inevitably brings about change.


27 posted on 11/19/2008 6:21:12 PM PST by 268750c
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“I can understand that the idea of a stranger jumping into a conversation to lecture students on inclusionary practices sounds incredibly unrealistic, not to mention inappropriate, however I believe that it is inappropriate in a way for individuals who are not harshly affected by issues of discrimination to dismiss attempts to reduce it on campus.”

Right so straight people should not be involved in this program then, after all if you are straight you are not harshly affected by these ‘issues of discrimination’. When people freedom to express themselves is stepped on everyone, everywhere should object, expression is the second most fundamental freedom.

“One of the most important components to modern racial theory is that you cannot fully understand the power of discrimination until you experience it first-hand.”

The problem is this attempt to end ‘discrimination’ is in fact discriminating against others. I should be able to utter a racial or sexual slur in the college environment without some administrative appointed crony swooping down into rescuce the human race. I find such language offensive and counter productive but I find the right to use it key to any true exchange of ideas.

“The program is less concerned with intruding on people’s conversations, and much more interested in sparking productive conversation and discussion regarding issues of discrimination.”

It accomplishes this *BY INTRUDING ON PEOPLES CONVERSATIONS* how you can think this is not intimidation is beyond me. These are as close to thought police as you can get. If you want to have the beginning of the year dorm meeting to discuss these issues that is one thing but for the language gestapo to be trolling the halls looking for an opportunity to put bigots in their place you are just making some speech more equal than other speech (something very Orwellian about that).

“It also offers a focus on inter-group dynamics and encouraging people to question their beliefs, which inevitably brings about change.”

So you admit the goal is not to teach tolerance but to change peoples beliefs. I’m sorry that’s not the college administrations job. If a group of students who have no official standing want to run around and do that I’m all for it but when these brown shirts run around they are doing so with the authority of the university.


28 posted on 11/19/2008 10:49:08 PM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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