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What Are Rich People Thinking? (Rich Obama supporters love paying higher taxes)
Newsweek ^ | 11/10/2008 | Daniel Gross

Posted on 11/10/2008 7:17:20 PM PST by tobyhill

For several years, I've been writing about Bushenfreude, the phenomenon of angry yuppies—who've hugely benefited from President Bush's tax cuts—funding angry, populist Democratic campaigns. I've theorized that people who work in financial services and related fields have become so outraged and alienated by the incompetence, crass social conservatism, and repeated insults to the nation's intelligence, of the Bush-era Republican Party, that they're voting with their hearts and heads instead of their wallets.

Last week's election was perhaps Bushenfreude's grandest day. As the campaign entered its final weeks, Barack Obama, who pledged to unite the country, singled out one group of people for ridicule: those making more than $250,000. At his rallies, he would ask for a show of hands of those making less than one-quarter of $1 million per year. Then he'd look around, laugh, and note that those in the virtuous majority would get their taxes cut, while the rich among them would be hit with a tax increase. And yet the exit polls show, the rich—and yes, if you make $250,000 or more you're rich—went for Obama by bigger margins than did the merely well-off. If the exit polls are to be believed, those making $200,000 or more (6 percent of the electorate) voted for Obama 52-46, while McCain won the merely well-off ($100,000 to $150,000 by a 51-48 margin and $150,000 to $200,000 by a 50-48 margin).

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KEYWORDS: bho2008; creativejournalism; democrats; economy; finances; idiotalert; liberalmedia; liberals; mediapropaganda; millionaires; newsweek; slantedmedia; stuckonstupid; taxes; taxincrease; wealthy
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To: Chairman of the Bard
I'm not getting a tax cut. Obama is a damn liar. When the Bush tax cuts expire, my income tax refund will be nil. In 2005, I managed a $9,100 refund from state and federal taxes because of the Bush tax cut. That became the down payment on my 2nd house. The following year, the mortgage interest and property taxes on that house pushed me into AMT territory. Now I have to do my taxes twice. Once with property tax and interest deducted and again without the deduction. Sometimes it's less expensive to let the "deduction" go down the toilet.

In 2000, my company stock options pushed the household income to $247K. I paid $70,000 in federal income tax and $19,500 in CA state income tax. I also paid max social security...as I have for most of 30 years. That was life under Clinton.

41 posted on 11/10/2008 9:51:09 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Trajan88
You are still playing the class envy game. Would you be happy if the government confiscated 10% of your net worth every year? You would be living under a bridge in short order.
42 posted on 11/10/2008 9:53:32 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

No I would not... I know the folks with mega wealth would not either.


43 posted on 11/10/2008 10:05:18 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Myrddin

That’s why Included that info. Right now he has an income stream, but no profits. Write-offs, doncha’ know. Still, we will ALL get a tax increase when the Bush tax-cuts expire, regardless of what Congress does next.


44 posted on 11/10/2008 10:10:34 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: tobyhill

Rich people don’t pay taxes, meaning taxes on income.

They find ways to shelter the income, or they get their money outside of the regular income stream, like dividends, options, expenses.

You could raise their rate to 100% and it won’t affect them.


45 posted on 11/10/2008 10:12:42 PM PST by oldbill
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To: Myrddin
"Obama wants to enlarge the middle class..."

No leftie wants to enlarge the middle class, ever. Leftists HATE the middle class. The middle class is too independent, too productive, too able, and too smart for leftists. The middle class will be destroyed under Obama if he can do it. Then we will have a third world country: with elites that get whatever they want whenever they want it and a resentful, helpless, dependent, weak and stupid lower class that is SO controllable just as long as the bread and circuses are tossed its way by the elites. This is what Obama wants and will create if he possibly can.

46 posted on 11/10/2008 10:13:22 PM PST by Irene Adler (')
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To: GaryLee1990

beats the @#$% out of me... what WERE they thinking? they are in for a very rude awakening.


47 posted on 11/10/2008 10:14:21 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Always Right

Your assessment is correct, it thwarts upward mobility from the lower or middle classes as the tax burden “up the ladder” from a successful enterprise becomes mathematically less and less possible.

Like the USSR, the Party leaders will control the money and power and the rest will be told to “share”.

It is merely a mask for Marxism.


48 posted on 11/10/2008 11:27:15 PM PST by wac3rd (Conservatives are not always Republicans...and vice-versa.)
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To: KFAT

If Mill Valley burned like the Oakland Hills fire (take Berkeley and the Castro, too) I would not shed a tear.


49 posted on 11/10/2008 11:30:37 PM PST by wac3rd (Conservatives are not always Republicans...and vice-versa.)
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To: Always Right
People don’t pay taxes on their Wealth.

Not yet.

But certainly, anyone with a net worth of more than $10,000,000 can afford to pay a paltry 2-3% per year on that... We have lots of new programs to fund, you know.

50 posted on 11/11/2008 6:02:58 AM PST by green iguana
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To: tobyhill

THe only logical answer is:
Rich people work for the government and get their higher paychecks from higher taxes.


51 posted on 11/11/2008 8:08:21 AM PST by JPJones
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To: tobyhill

I asked an 0bama supporter if they were going to pay more than required of them on April 15, 2009,

because that’s what they voted for the rest of us to do in later years.

Indignance and refusal to answer were all that I got back.


52 posted on 11/11/2008 8:10:12 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, and Thuggery)
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To: nutmeg

Lots of discussion about Fairfield County voters in the main article.


53 posted on 11/11/2008 8:27:49 AM PST by Betis70
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To: denydenydeny

But how many of US are they going to take with them?


54 posted on 11/11/2008 8:30:33 AM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: MASS-2 FAC

Read the article. He is not talking exit polls, he is talking about *actual* results from some of the richest cities/towns in the entire country.


55 posted on 11/11/2008 8:31:02 AM PST by Betis70
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To: MrB

Someone told me if I was happy to get a free coffee at Charbucks just for sporting an ‘I voted’ sticker, I didn’t need to worry about tax increases from Zero.

Yeah right.


56 posted on 11/11/2008 8:36:51 AM PST by Betis70
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To: Betis70
I've got something that will shut up anyone that says that you aren't going to have your taxes raised.

Shut up a lib alert

Tell them that, for the duration of 0bama's "rule", you'll pay them any difference if your tax liability is LESS under 0bama's tax structure than under 2007/08 tax law if they'll agree to pay the difference if it's MORE.

57 posted on 11/11/2008 9:16:53 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, and Thuggery)
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To: Irene Adler
You missed the sarcastic streak in my post. The usual intent to increase the middle class comes from helping the lower class succeed and move up. Obama is working the other direction. Pushing people out of the upper class into the middle class. It's a general downward push on the affluence of the entire society. Standard socialist objective.
58 posted on 11/11/2008 9:19:13 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Always Right
People don’t pay taxes on their Wealth. People pay taxes on their income. It is not those who are already rich that have to worry about these taxes, it is the people who want to become rich.

Under socialism, everything is taxed, including income and assets. In fact, we currently have a sort of socialism when it comes to property taxes. No matter how much you owe on your property, whether 100% or 0% or anywhere in between, if you fail to pay your property taxes, your house can be confiscated and sold to recoup those unpaid taxes.

As with property, any other asset can be classified as perpetually taxable. Property can be anything of value, including cash or hard assets or businesses or income.

In a communist state, which is where Obama will lead us, you don't have the right to own anything. Everything is shareable or redistributable, and in that sense, you don't really own anything. It's all community property and all that you have is temporarily for your use, and when you die, the government will take and re-distribute anything which you may have viewed as "yours".

So, in essence, those rich voters who voted for Obama and democrats in the election, are not really aware that they're committing financial suicide.
59 posted on 11/11/2008 9:55:16 AM PST by adorno
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To: calenel

Sheesh! All those rich Obama supporters are moving their booty offshore so fast the lines are burning!


60 posted on 11/11/2008 11:02:55 AM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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