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Postal Service Looks To Cut 40,000 Jobs In First Layoff In History
KSLA News ^ | Oct 27, 2008 05:56 PM | Jonathan McCall

Posted on 11/10/2008 6:36:36 PM PST by mbj

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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

It is amazing to me that amount of surliness that is encountered at the post office. There is one guy who has long hair who is always friendly..maybe he is a wannabe hippie even though he is too young..but mostly I encounter surliness from postal clerks.


61 posted on 11/10/2008 7:21:11 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: infowarrior

“I could tell you some stuff that would make your hair curl”

I had a relative that worked there when she was in college. She said that if workers saw Fragile on a package they would try extra hard to damage it and say..should have bought insurance.


62 posted on 11/10/2008 7:23:00 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: mbj

Unusual move for them. Usually they just jack up the rate of a stamp. They could probably cut the 40,000 positions through attrition without much difficulty. I suspect there is a lot of fat at the post office, and I don’t mean on the desk clerks.


63 posted on 11/10/2008 7:23:00 PM PST by MovementConservative (In 4 years GW Bush and the free-spending republicans have almost completely destroyed the GOP.)
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To: Dallas59
"Is it really this bad?"

I guess if you are a postal worker it is.

It's also a good indicator of how the economy is slowing down.

64 posted on 11/10/2008 7:24:55 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: icwhatudo
Correction, non union jobs first to go.

Isn't *that* common anywhere else in the business world? Non-union jobs, in a unionized organization, aren't covered under a contract, as union jobs are. There are very few permanent non-union jobs in the USPS. Most non-union jobs are TE (Temporary Employee) or PTF (Part Time Flex). They are hired, and laid off, as needed, and always have been...

the infowarrior

65 posted on 11/10/2008 7:25:05 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: mefistofelerevised
I found the PERFECT renewable energy resource. Junk Mail!

Subscribe to anything and everything that is free and sent through the mail. Then, buy a wood stove and use all that wonderful free carbon as a fuel to heat your home. The supply is endless! You'll save thousands of dollars on energy and the USPS is required by law to deliver it right to your house!

Hey, I'm doing MY part to save da ert!

66 posted on 11/10/2008 7:25:28 PM PST by April Lexington
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To: mbj
across all crafts...

CRAFTS??? you GOT to be kiddin me... next thing you know, they will want to be called mail room engineers or something.

67 posted on 11/10/2008 7:28:22 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - McCain/Palin'08 = http://www.johnmccain.com/)
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To: infowarrior

Yea, but most of the time when the Post office announces “lay-offs”, Nobody actually looses a job. They do most of their cutting back by attrition and route restructuring, which always seems to end up with less full time routes, more part time routes and more part time staff, and the union in a tizzy filing grievances.


68 posted on 11/10/2008 7:29:22 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: infowarrior

We also have the very best postal delivery system in the world. I have shipped thousands and thousands of packages within the US and have only had one go missing. Actually, I think the man was lying through his teeth.
Mail to Europe is a crap shoot. Mail in Italy? Forget it. One of the all time most screwed up mail systems in the world. Mail to South America, Central America? Never know if it is going to arrive. Jamaica? I have a client there who has everything delivered to an address in Florida. He then flies to Florida to pick it up as he’d never get a package sent to his home.
I’ve been shipping goods for years. I’ve no complaint about the USPO.
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Also heard from friends of mine at the USPO that the post office system in general is top heavy with redundant middle management who receive rather large bonuses each year. Your opinion?


69 posted on 11/10/2008 7:29:52 PM PST by warsaw44
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To: dilvish
Well they’re only “considering”. Knowing how the government considers this won’t happen until mid-next year at the earliest. Really once the new Congress and Pres are in who knows what’ll happen, they’ll be looking to hang on until then.

Ummm... No... The early retirement push I spoke of earlier is going on right now, today, not a year, six months from now. The non-union cuts will be following in about 90 days or so. From there, who knows?

the infowarrior

70 posted on 11/10/2008 7:30:34 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: April Lexington

Hey, junk mail is my friend! I cut out my address from each piece of junk mail and use it as a return address for packages.


71 posted on 11/10/2008 7:31:35 PM PST by warsaw44
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To: hunter112

Nope. Junk mail and bulk mail is what keeps first class mail alive. If carriers delivered nothing but first class mail, the post office would be bankrupt.


72 posted on 11/10/2008 7:33:01 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: caver

I volunteer at a state park, and from what I’ve seen, the jobs exist as long as people are employed in those spots, but during hard times, if people leave, they lose those “hours” from their “budget” and those positions are eliminated. Also, they either close the park or close for one day a week (mine is looking at closing on Mondays, for example).


73 posted on 11/10/2008 7:34:05 PM PST by JMKirnan
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To: April Lexington
"Subscribe to anything and everything that is free and sent through the mail. Then, buy a wood stove and use all that wonderful free carbon as a fuel to heat your home. The supply is endless! You'll save thousands of dollars on energy and the USPS is required by law to deliver it right to your house!"

Or, just tell the letter carrier that he can dump all the junk mail he doesn't feel like delivering in a bin you set up for him/her. Better than them tossing it into the river.

74 posted on 11/10/2008 7:35:29 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: hunter112

actually junk mail subsidizes first class mail. Do you really think it only costs 42 cents to get a letter from Miami to Anchorage?


75 posted on 11/10/2008 7:35:54 PM PST by weston
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To: hunter112

actually junk mail subsidizes first class mail. Do you really think it only costs 42 cents to get a letter from Miami to Anchorage?


76 posted on 11/10/2008 7:36:17 PM PST by weston
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To: papasmurf
Ummmm....I thought the USPS...has actually been one of the "pieces" of Gob'ment...that has actually made money...in the past.

Personally speaking....I have shipped thousands of packages by the USPS...and have had EXTREMELY great service.

I think they a do a great job.....overall.

77 posted on 11/10/2008 7:36:22 PM PST by Osage Orange (Victims that fight back live longer.....................)
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To: mbj
Pepper says workers who are not part of union with six or less years of service would likely be the first on the chopping block.

sigh, welcome to the age of obama

78 posted on 11/10/2008 7:36:47 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: MovementConservative
Unusual move for them. Usually they just jack up the rate of a stamp. They could probably cut the 40,000 positions through attrition without much difficulty. I suspect there is a lot of fat at the post office, and I don’t mean on the desk clerks.

Less "fat" than you might think. My section (Tour 3 Maintenance, which means that I repair mail processing machines during the hours where the incoming mail is received for processing) has been continually understaffed for the last 4 years. Its so bad now, that I am usually, the only electronics technician on the floor during those hours on Saturday and Sunday, with almost half a dozen Preventive Maintenance routes to perform, while still fielding breakdown calls...

the infowarrior

79 posted on 11/10/2008 7:36:54 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: org.whodat
I'm just wondering how much ‘security’ the Anointed One is going to do ... Lincoln suppressed habeus corpus during the Civil War ... Obama in the name of national security can do anything ....
80 posted on 11/10/2008 7:37:51 PM PST by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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